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TXF930121/Delia Hillard; Ells pm
Topic Started: May 3 2006, 03:53 PM (613 Views)
Ell
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http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/105uftx.html
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/...p?showtopic=770


and

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/890dftx.html ( Delia Hillard)

sent Via DN 5-2005

** resent to Chambers County Sheriff's Dept by snail mail 8-2-2006
Ell

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The Old Heifer! An oxymoron, of course.
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http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/105uftx.html

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/591dftx.html
Christina Jeanette Chandler

San Angelo Police Department
Sgt Sturm
325-657-4315 For Christina

Chamber County Sheriff’s Office
409-267-8322 For Jane

Called 05/25/06 Lauran
Followup messages left 06/20/06
asked for ruleouts as well...
Got a nice reception from CID at Chambers County. The investigating detective was not in, but the dept was happy to hear about us. Inquired into the match by Ellen as well with Delia Hillard

Rick.ogan@sanangelopolice.org Rick Ogan of San Angelo just called me back. Sgt Strum has been transferred but Rick will follow up on this. He had never heard of us, or the doenetwork (i sent the links) and seems rather impressed with the idea of matching this way.

06/21/06 got this email reply from Rick Ogan
Just got this...

Lauran, received your e-mail. Thanks for the links. Initially looking where Chambers Co is, it seems unlikely Christina would have been found there as it is almost on the other side of Texas from where her vehicle was found. Talked to Sgt Sturm. He advised there should be dental records and DNA from Christina’s parents available through the Missing Persons Clearing House to help identify any unidentified bodies. I will look into it further just to make sure the body found isn’t Christina’s.

Sgt R Ogan
Lauran

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The Old Heifer! An oxymoron, of course.
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http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/105uftx.html

Dawnita Sharpe-Arizona Fugitive
http://www.adc.state.az.us/Escapees/Sharpe.html


Sent by Darrell

September 28, 2006
Emailed to Detective Sherry Wilcox (409) 267-3089 the match between her 105uftx Jane Doe and Escaped Arizona Fugitive Dawnita Sharpe.
Lauran

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Lauran, received your e-mail. Thanks for the links. Initially looking where Chambers Co is, it seems unlikely Christina would have been found there as it is almost on the other side of Texas from where her vehicle was found. Talked to Sgt Sturm. He advised there should be dental records and DNA from Christina’s parents available through the Missing Persons Clearing House to help identify any unidentified bodies. I will look into it further just to make sure the body found isn’t Christina’s.


GRRRRRR.. guys we reallly NEED to put something together as an educational packet for law enforcement. Ive been talking about this for years and never doing. These guys do not follow cold case solves or they would know that these people can end up ANYWHERE!!! Some information I have kept where I noted big discrepancies in the descriptive information when looking at the solved cold case but I didnt do it all along. We should have a forum to gather the information on the UID and the Missing after a cold case is finally solved. LIke where missing and where found.. stats given for UID and stats that were given for the missing.. and notes regarding if the reconstruction looked like the person and if so or if not which TYPE of reconstruction was used.. ie: computer; clay; etc. Wether the estimated date of death was close, things like that.. that way one day we can put it all together in some readable format..
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2/6/07

Left msg for Sgt Ogan on Chandler, my email and phone number. Will follow up.

Called Chambers County. Was told I need to talk to Capt of Investigations. Was connected to a ringing forever phone. Never rang back to switchboard. Odd. Thats not a very big town. Matter of fact, I know an officer there. Im gonna call back and see if I can get him.

2/6/07 tad dah lol He was there! hehe! Anyway, the person that needs to be talked to is John Mulryan, Capt of Investigations. His secretary asked that we fax the info on the UID and the two Jane's to her (to his attention) and she will take it down to him.
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Ell
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Rita whats the fax # for them?
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Well dang! Im loosing my MIND! I know I answered this, but I guess I didnt hit submit! argh

John Mulryan fx 409 267 6858
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sent fax to John. 2-6-2007
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awagner,Sep 28
2006 - 05:02 PM
Lauran, received your e-mail. Thanks for the links. Initially looking where Chambers Co is, it seems unlikely Christina would have been found there as it is almost on the other side of Texas from where her vehicle was found. Talked to Sgt Sturm. He advised there should be dental records and DNA from Christina’s parents available through the Missing Persons Clearing House to help identify any unidentified bodies. I will look into it further just to make sure the body found isn’t Christina’s.


GRRRRRR.. guys we reallly NEED to put something together as an educational packet for law enforcement. Ive been talking about this for years and never doing. These guys do not follow cold case solves or they would know that these people can end up ANYWHERE!!! Some information I have kept where I noted big discrepancies in the descriptive information when looking at the solved cold case but I didnt do it all along. We should have a forum to gather the information on the UID and the Missing after a cold case is finally solved. LIke where missing and where found.. stats given for UID and stats that were given for the missing.. and notes regarding if the reconstruction looked like the person and if so or if not which TYPE of reconstruction was used.. ie: computer; clay; etc. Wether the estimated date of death was close, things like that.. that way one day we can put it all together in some readable format..

I agree Awagner, and also, alot of people don't believe that killers travel around killing, but when you look at Bundy, or Lucas, you see that this happens.
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Yep, just like that MS UID I just called on. They have the killer in Texas. I asked was the killer FROM Texas. He didnt know. I asked if he knew where the UID was from (he will as soon as he remembers his name) but the guy killed him HERE and then he's busted in Texas after killing SEVERAL men all over the place and who knows where they were from? That UID looks hispanic to me.

Buttttttttttttt 'educate' them? lol Most of them dont even pay any attention to us.
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okay, we gotta do something here now. Sgt Ogen called back. Chandler was ruled out. He said he was sorry, he thought he talked to someone with us or emailed. Now we have three on here. What to do?
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Ell
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What about Hilliard
Ell

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The Old Heifer! An oxymoron, of course.
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100PercentFound,Feb 6
2007 - 04:36 PM
okay, we gotta do something here now. Sgt Ogen called back. Chandler was ruled out. He said he was sorry, he thought he talked to someone with us or emailed. Now we have three on here. What to do?

I am not sure what you mean Rita? Are you talking about the rule outs? or what? LOL I am lost. I fyou mean that we have two rule outs out of three on the thread....that is why I started the other listing for the pms. this is getting tricky with too many pms listed under one header for the uid. so i started separating them. leave this thread til the other is done and then we will be able to easily fix it.
Lauran

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no Hillard is not ruled out. Thats what Im talking about. There are 4 pms on this thread LOLOL
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2-9-07

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/105uftx.html

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http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/890dftx.html ( Delia Hillard)


called the number for the Houston office. Got voicemail of a Detective. Couldnt understand his name. I left the reason I was calling and the name of the MP. Told him we have a pm on her. Left my number.
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Ell
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Resent the Hillard pm to Chambers County by Fax 3-22-07
Chambers County Sheriff's Department
201 North Court
P.O. Box 998
Anahuac, Texas 77514
(409) 267-8318 -- Phone
(409) 267-6736 -- Fax
Ell

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Sent fax to Chambers County Sheriff dept for Delia Hillard case...6-21-07
Fax# 409-267-6736
Ell

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Ell
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Posting for Darrell 7-9-07
105UFTX / Dawnita Sharpe
Contacted Detective Wilcox. She is following up on the lead after coming back from maternity leave.
Ell

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Sent fax to Chambers County Sheriff dept for Delia Hillard case...7-15-07
Fax# 409-267-6736
Ell

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Reply 7-16-07

My name is Sherry Willcox and I work at the Chambers County Sheriff's Office. I just returned back to work from Maternity Leave and received a fax from you regarding our Jane Doe that was recovered in 1993 and a possible match with Della Marie Hillard. I just wanted to let you know that we do not at this time have DNA on our victim. I am in the process of trying to get that. As soon as we get DNA on our victim if it is possible then I will contact you and let you know. If you have any questions please contact me at 409-267-3089.

Thank You,
Sherry Willcox
swillcox@windstream.net
Ell

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Random reply 9-10-07:

I have previously sent you an email responding to your possible match between our unidentified deceased person and Della Marie Hillard. In case you did not receive that email I am letting you know that we sent the skull for DNA testing to see if there is a match between the two. We are still waiting on the results from the testing. As soon as I receive the results I will let you know.
Thank You
Sherry Willcox
Ell

Only after the last tree has been
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Only after the last fish has been
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Only after the last river has been
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sent e-mail to Sherry Wilcox to see if this match is still pending or ruled out..12-3-2007
Ell

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reply 12-6-07
This case is still pending, we have sent the remains to University of North Texas and have not received anything back yet.
Thanks,
Sherry Willcox
Ell

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sent to swillcox@windstream.net see if DNA testing has been completed..2-8-2008
Ell

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reply 2-8-08
no ma'am I have not heard anything yet but I just called UT System Center for Human ID and they advised me that it is still in process but that it was ready to be reviewed and then it will be entered into CODIS to see if there is a possible match. I will let you know if I hear anything but if you do not hear from me check back with me from time to time.
Thanks, Sherry
Ell

Only after the last tree has been
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Only after the last river has been
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Sent e-mail for followup 3-27-2008
Ell

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sent for followup to Sherry 4-6-2008
Ell

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Hi Ellen,
I just received information on Thursday that our unidentified female was entered into CODIS and that there was a hit on a missing woman by the name of Donna Jean Snowden. I did not locate Donna on the DPS website. Her family was notified last week. If you have any questions please give me a call at 409-267-3089. I appreciate all of your help.

Thank you,
Sherry Willcox
Ell

Only after the last tree has been
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Only after the last river has been
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