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TXM900526 / Robert Gemmell; Ells pm
Topic Started: Apr 7 2006, 05:18 PM (1,028 Views)
monkalup
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http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gemmell_robert.html ( Robert Michael Gemmell)
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/...pic=10673&st=0&

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/49umtx.html
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/...?showtopic=4627
Called in on April 7. Meeting going on...so I could only leave a voice mail message. However the dispatcher said they would be more than happy to look at any matches we have. Unfortunately no one will be there until Monday. But at least they have the info at hand...

on behalf.
Lauran

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I just got off the phone with Patty Subia. Texas Dept of Safety. She was interested in this match and was going to get with the investigator on Gemmell and compare notes. She was quite happy to get info on such an old UID case. She thought the resemblance excellent. and also thought there might be a missing tooth in Gemmell's photo. She'll call me back ASAP

As an aside: Her first question was "how did you find this match?" I told her I was with a volunteer group called the Porchlight who work on long term missing and unidentified cases. She said "like the Doenet?" I said similar idea, different structure. Her response "GREAT! We need more groups like this". : angel:
Lauran

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Great job....Lets go to Aiken Lauren...... :ph43r:
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http://www.muffinfilms.com/


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monkalup,Apr 10
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As an aside: Her first question was "how did you find this match?"  I told her I was with a volunteer group called the Porchlight who work on long term missing and unidentified cases.  She said "like the Doenet?"  I said similar idea, different structure.  Her response "GREAT!  We need more groups like this".  : angel:

I think one group like DOE is enough.

WE NEED MORE PORCHLIGHTS!!! :D

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Great job....Lets go to Aiken Lauren...... :ph43r:

What's a good day? lol
Lauran

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http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/49umtx.html

and

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/griffin_micheal.html ( Michael Griffin)

sent VIA Dn 12/30/04 (tx) , 2-5-05 (NY)
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Bossman,Apr 10
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monkalup,Apr 10
2006 - 10:34 AM

As an aside: Her first question was "how did you find this match?"  I told her I was with a volunteer group called the Porchlight who work on long term missing and unidentified cases.  She said "like the Doenet?"  I said similar idea, different structure.  Her response "GREAT!  We need more groups like this".  : angel:

I think one group like DOE is enough.

WE NEED MORE PORCHLIGHTS!!! :D

Bossman

Hey Darrell! We got em! LOL! More porchlights!
Lauran

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http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gemmell_robert.html ( Robert Michael Gemmell)

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/49umtx.html

Called in on April 7. Meeting going on...so I could only leave a voice mail message. However the dispatcher said they would be more than happy to look at any matches we have. Unfortunately no one will be there until Monday. But at least they have the info at hand...

on behalf.

After repeated calls to Texas Dept of Public Safety who keep telling me they cannot even tell me if this match is ruled in or out...
I decided to try Harrison County. Heide there are most receptive. they will pull the original case file. she pulled it up on the computer and said info was scant but resemblance was there. she will have supervisor call me this week. she says "thanks!"
Lauran

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Just got a call from Omaha City LE telling me that this match is being looked at because it was called in by Patty Beeken for the Doenetwork two weeks ago.
I explained that I called it in back in April and his reply was "you didn't speak to me".

of course not...the listing agency for both cases is the texas dept of public safety.

So what's going on here? 402-444-1907

I can't figure out how Omaha is in this case at all? Is there another match for Gemmel?? He told me the case was Robert Gemmel (missing from Texas...)
Lauran

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I just called Patty Subia 800-346-3243 ext 2811 . this is TXDPS that I called the Gemmel match into back in April. She was quite enthusiastic and friendly with me on that phone call and I believe she would have a record of it. Unfortunately she is on vacation until July 17th. sigh
Lauran

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Patty knows I talked to her about this...she is in charge of the UID...this guy was for Gemmel. and that was back in april....
Lauran

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I am going to look for a nebraska pm...just in case...
Lauran

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Just got off the phone with Patty Subia.. nothing new on her end... 8-23-2006
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10-10-2006 Left message on voice mail with Patty Subea

Patty called back and nothing new to report...
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called and left message for patty subea 1-800-346-3243 ext 2811 for followup 2-7-2007
Ell

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Patty Subea is out of the office until Monday. She will call one or the other of us.
Lauran

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Called and Patty won't be in until March 5th
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e-mailed Det. Sandifer with Farmers Branch Pollice Dept.
larry.sandifer@farmersbranch.info
for status of possible match 2-24-2007
Ell

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Reply 2-29-07

I forwarded your email to Sgt. Tucker and Lt. Bradley. Sgt Tucker is assigned to missing adults. He may have already responded to the message. I pulled his arrest folder and all mug shots are removed from the folder so he may have them in the missing persons folder. I will check with him and one of us will get back with you.

Larry Sandifer # 411
Detective/CID
Farmers Branch Police
972-919-9343 Desk
469-222-1735 Cell
972-247-0151 Fax
larry.sandifer@farmersbranch.info

Ell

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E-mailed Det Sandifer to see if he has heard anything on this pm yet... 3-15-07

larry.sandifer@farmersbranch.info
Ell

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left voice message for Patty subea TX DPS 3-22-07
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Patty called 3-23-07 and said she has heard nothing new on this ..but the case is still open
Ell

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Called Sgt. tucker at 972-919-9342 for followup March 23 2007
Lauran

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sent larry.sandifer@farmersbranch.info
e-mail( to Det. Sandifer) to see if he can get a followup for me... 5-21-07
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Faxed for followup ( Addressed to Lt. Bradley) Fax:972.247.0152
6/26/07
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e-mailed TXDPS for followup 8-20-07
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Sent fax to Sgt Tucker and Lt. Bradley for any findings on this possible match.
Fax# 972.247.0152
8-31-2007
Ell

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Reply from Sgt. Tucker 9-4-07
I'm trying to get additional info from Family. They have moved to Michigan and Illinois. Last time I spoke w/ family member they were convinces that Robert was murdered due to his affiliation with drug dealers.

They had no additional help (DNA, etc.) Robert did have a surgical scar on his right ankle, does that match your unidentified?

Ell

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Just spoke to Harrison County sheriff at 903 923-4000

Spoke to CID and left a message for Marthy Latham. John Doe was found skeletal, near the Little Cypress river by two hikers. (little Cypress info not on the case file...)
Also DNA is availiable
CID will have Latham check with coroner's records and call me back.
Lauran

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another reply from Stg Tucker
Forgot to include, Sister-in-law did advise that Robert was severely beaten prior to his disappearance - so the broken nose and missing tooth can be of some importance here.




Todd Tucker LCC
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Farmers Branch Police Department
(972) 919.9342 office
(469) 853.9043 cell
(972) 247.0151 fax
Ell

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E-mail from Sgt Tucker received 10-24-2007

I have located fingerprint cards for our missing person, Robert M. Gemmell.
Perhaps they can be of benefit to Harris County?
See attached


Todd Tucker, LCC
Sergeant
Criminal Investigations Division

Farmers Branch Police Department
(972) 919.9342 office
(469) 853.9043 cell
(972) 247.0151 fax

todd.tucker@farmersbranch.info
Ell

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E-mail from Sgt Tucker received 10-24-2007

I have located fingerprint cards for our missing person, Robert M. Gemmell.
Perhaps they can be of benefit to Harris County?
See attached


Todd Tucker, LCC
Sergeant
Criminal Investigations Division   

Farmers Branch Police Department
(972) 919.9342 office
(469) 853.9043 cell
(972) 247.0151 fax

todd.tucker@farmersbranch.info

I think this is a good match...but the remains were skeletal weren't they??? So are fingerprints going to help?? And its Harrison county instead of Harris county...Actually Harrison county is probably closer to Farmers Branch (in Dallas area) and Harrison county is on I-20 about 100 miles to the east of Dallas...past Tyler and Longview but almost to Louisiana state line.
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Just spoke to Vivian in the CID of Harrison Co. She was having a hard time finding info on UID for 1990. I gave her the NCIC's of both for this PM and she is going to call me back. Before giving her the ncic's she said it may take a while.

Will let you know when it happens.
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Vivian just called me back, she says this case of the UID wasn't handled very well, no autopsy was done. She has tried to reach the coroner and is going to try and get in touch with the JP that was during this time frame.

She has requested that I send a copy of the info w/pic to her, she is going to dig deeper to find info.
Debbie

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I talked to Vivian this morning and she did receive fax from Ell. She says I would have to talk to Martin because she gave him the fax info. He is in court today and doesn't know when he will be done with the case in court. She said the Sullivan funeral home handled the burial. 903-938-7777 they maybe be able to give me more details of the skeletal remains.
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E-mailed Todd Tucker for followup
todd.tucker@farmersbranch.info
1-3-2007
Ell

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e-mailed Inv Rucker for followup 1-16-2009
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Yes we have. I last spoke with Emily 512.424.5472 of the Missing Person's Clearinghouse on 08/13/2008. She advised that she had tracked down Robert Gemmell's mother and was making arrangements for a DNA swabbing. She told me that she was going to make arrangements with the Calamazo Police Department to have the swabbing done.




Roen Serna, Sergeant
Criminal Investigations Division
Farmers Branch Police Department
office: 972 919-9342
fax: 972 247-0151
Roen.Serna@farmersbranch.info
Ell

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I was asked to contact you by Sgt. Serna with the Farmer's Branch police department regarding the case of Robert Gemmell. DNA has been collected from his family and is being processed at the lab. Would you be able to send me a link for the unidentified body that you think could be Mr. Gemmell? The link in your previous emails does not work for me.
Thank you,
Emily
Emily O'Hern
Research Specialist
Bureau of Information Analysis
Texas Department of Public Safety
Missing Persons Clearinghouse
P.O. Box 4087
Austin, TX 78773-0422
(512) 424-5472 direct line
(512) 424-2885 facsimile
Ell

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1-16-2009

I was asked to contact you by Sgt. Serna with the Farmer's Branch police department regarding the case of Robert Gemmell. DNA has been collected from his family and is being processed at the lab. Would you be able to send me a link for the unidentified body that you think could be Mr. Gemmell? The link in your previous emails does not work for me.
Thank you,
Emily
Emily O'Hern
Research Specialist
Bureau of Information Analysis
Texas Department of Public Safety
Missing Persons Clearinghouse
P.O. Box 4087
Austin, TX 78773-0422
(512) 424-5472 direct line
(512) 424-2885 facsimile

Fast reply...looks like they are very interested in this possible match

Betty
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