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| Tweet Topic Started: 19 Mar 2007, 03:11 PM (1,180 Views) | |
| MARCPKH | 19 Mar 2007, 03:11 PM Post #1 |
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I wonder why there's a few forumer here selling off their MS-1 after keeping them for a year or so. It seem that more MS-1 are put up for sales than the SR80 OR SR60. Is it because the SR 60 are easier to drive by portable DAP that most dont mind keeping it as spare? Marc :lol: |
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| yuujin | 19 Mar 2007, 03:16 PM Post #2 |
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it takes the same amount of juice to drive the ms1s as with the sr60s. i guess its just because more people have the ms1s rather then the sr60s. Upgraditis is a sickness for all audiophiles, hence the 'dumping' |
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| osocan | 19 Mar 2007, 05:28 PM Post #3 |
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Only see 1 MS-1 WTS on the first page of the classifieds. Don't think it qualifies as dumping. Grados and Alessandros are both rated as 32 ohms and can be driven from headphone outs.
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| Revelatio | 23 Mar 2007, 02:06 PM Post #4 |
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Maybe MS1 owners upgrade to MS2 or MS Pro? I upgraded to MS Pro in 6 weeks. |
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| warsurfer | 23 Mar 2007, 04:04 PM Post #5 |
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Haha. Not dumping la. Think of it this way,the upgrade path for a person who fancies the alessandro range is MS-1 > MS-2 > MS-pro. And I believe most would agree with me that the SQ with each upgrade is quite apparent. So perhaps the urge to upgrade's stronger? and I think there are more MS-1 owners out there, owning to the less bright sound SQ? Well, my worth 2 cents of illogical reasoning |
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| MegaDeaf | 23 Mar 2007, 04:29 PM Post #6 |
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Well I guess because lesser buyers of Grado compared to Alessandro. Got this feeling from those appreciation threads. :lol: |
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| yongchris | 24 Mar 2007, 02:36 AM Post #7 |
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Actually, I believe the people who buy grados and alessandros are moving in different circles. Alessandros tend to be bought by the younger, more internet savvy crowd whereas grados are bought by old foggies like me who are more technically challenged. More 'audiophiles' buy Grados in SG (people who visit Adelphi and never into the darker recesses where our dear jaben is located). Hence they would only see Grados in MBD and they would know of the Grado name from record cartridges and stereophile reviews. He would probably buy the 325 and be happy, or the SR60 and already know audio bliss because the headphone is his secondary listening equipment. He would already have spent thousands on speaker gear and only use the headphones for times when he needs to not disturb the household. Also, as he is generally older and earning more money, he can afford to just upgrade to a better model without having to sell off his 'lesser' model to regain monies. The alessandro buyer on the other hand, would be a younger, less monetary-inclined individual, who would have spent weeks or even months online reading reveiws, begging for opinions (opps, like you?), and trolling forums before making the big buy. This same buyer would probably be easily swayed by opinions and forum reviews and when he buys the MS1, realises that he is not satisfied (or is told that the MS2 is better and he should not be satisfied) and he goes off in search of the next model. As he is generally younger and probably saving from pocket money, he would need to sell his previous piece of gear before purchasing the next piece. The Alessandro buyer is also usually not inclined toward speaker systems, rather prefers having a headphone system (hence the upgrade). True? Chris |
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| raptor84 | 24 Mar 2007, 09:04 AM Post #8 |
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That sounds like a pretty accurate analysis / comparison
I guess it is true that the younger more tech savvy crowd does their research first/. I do admit that I have been swayed by numerous reviews as well as hype from friends who have bought products. I guess it is true that audio is more of a secondary pleasure for now so I'm not willing to spend that much. Cash flow will always be a problem till I can actually get a job =p
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| osocan | 24 Mar 2007, 10:31 AM Post #9 |
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Generally agree with the observations of the customers of MBD and Jaben. But I am also inclined to think that there are equal exposure of both phones on the internet. And I think many of the guys that frequent Jaben also visit SE. With the extensive on-line research and the opportunity to audition both phones in the same shop, why are there more people spending their hard earned cash on the MS-1 only to put it up for sale later on? It really puzzles me. |
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| hanhan | 25 Mar 2007, 04:40 PM Post #10 |
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I think the upgraditis has hit the costumer who bought MS-1.. Well there are MS-2i and MS-Pro hehe. |
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| warsurfer | 25 Mar 2007, 10:12 PM Post #11 |
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at the moment, i have both the MS1 and MS2. Thought that they are actually very different and I'm actually contemplating keeping the MS-1 to complement the MS2 !
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| yongchris | 27 Mar 2007, 01:38 AM Post #12 |
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I would fancy a guess. Some buy the MS1 with plans to upgrade to the MS2 because they have no money on hand to buy the MS1 immediately. Some simply cannot afford the MS2, so they buy the MS1 instead of saving. Then months later, they have saved enough for the MS2, so they get rid of the MS1 to buy the MS2. More likely, the asking price of the MS1 seems more affordable to a new buyer than the MS2. However, after spending time with the MS1, the come to understand how enjoyable good quality equipment is, so they are willing to spend the money on the MS2. Don't discount the silliness of some buyers. I've known people who've bought the SR60, upgraded to the 125, then the 325, then the RS1. Why didn't they go straight to the top model? Maybe they didn't know how much involving the music could be on a good system? That's why manufacturers make different models to target different segments of the economic market. Not everyone can afford the best, so there has to be cheap models too. The UM1 is a great case-study. Notice how many people are selling their UM1s to upgrade to the UM2? If they had realised their folly sooner, they would have and should have just bought the UM2 in the first place. I guess it all boils down to being smart when buying gear. My policy is always buy the best that I can afford rather than buy something cheap and plan to upgrade. In the long run, I save more than I've spent. Chris |
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| warsurfer | 27 Mar 2007, 01:44 AM Post #13 |
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Agree wholly! and we gotta learn to be satisfied with what we have! |
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| raptor84 | 27 Mar 2007, 09:20 AM Post #14 |
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I guess this applies to most hobbies that involve chasing equipment Its much harder to do the same thing for cameras though cause the 'best' may not be what you really need. The price tags of bodies and lenses can rival higher end speaker systems too. |
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| sya | 27 Mar 2007, 10:13 AM Post #15 |
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with regards to what Chris has said, jumping the gun has its own fair share of disadvantages. For one, following a systematic upgrade would enable you to realise the improvements made for the specific series. You know what you're missing out and you know why you're upgrading. Worse still what if you listening taste is more suited to the model before the flagship? Buying and then feeling dissatisfied with your over the top purchase. Jumping the gun do has its monetary benefits, I'm just pointing out what we could miss out if we don't follow a systematic upgrade. |
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| warsurfer | 4 Apr 2007, 11:21 PM Post #16 |
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Well... some people might not have wanted to upgrade in the first place... BUT upgraditis's rather infectious. especially if we continue prowling these forums... |
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| corsair | 6 Apr 2007, 01:36 AM Post #17 |
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I've owned my MS-1 for about 2 weeks, and there are many times, I'm tempted to put these up for sale and get the MS-2i. However, the missus has made some noise, its kinda like $300+ more..."You got golden ears??" blah blah.. But anyway, I think I'm better off upgrading my IEMs as most of my listening are on my travels. After all, the MS-2i are too heavy for head banging.. <_< |
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| aloy | 7 Apr 2007, 02:27 AM Post #18 |
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yup. i think most people never thought of an upgrade at all, but just that upgraditis strikes and they all wanna upgrade after that. maybe it's due to the SQ or sound signature? OT a bit, never tried before, is the SQ of MS1 good? |
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| tassardar | 7 Apr 2007, 09:24 AM Post #19 |
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Hmm its pretty true that people upgrade their gear. Most of them look forward to go upwards. For me I can say I was once hit by this upgradetis once. Problem is when you first strat off pyou[/b] tend to be more prudent on the way you spent. However once you are into it u tend to be more willing to spend then before. Also personal testing take quite some time. At first I'm quite swayed by headphones but after sometime found that speakers are for me for my home setup. My portable setup also changed much. I once bought one of the better amps and phones but somehow they just don't fit into my lifestyle so changed qiuite often. Moderator edit = c'mon Tass! I've seen you write great! Please don't revert to SMS or IM speak on us! It's just plain lazy - Scanfiend |
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I guess it is true that the younger more tech savvy crowd does their research first/. I do admit that I have been swayed by numerous reviews as well as hype from friends who have bought products. I guess it is true that audio is more of a secondary pleasure for now so I'm not willing to spend that much. Cash flow will always be a problem till I can actually get a job =p
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