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| mrhobbit | 7 Feb 2007, 01:22 AM Post #1 |
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was trying out several IEM's in jaben that day, and found out that there was not enough of a slam in the bass. uncle wilson as always came to the rescue, he allowed me to audition the DTX50, and i was blown away. so much better than the UM1 even though its around the same price range(IMO) any owners here? and i would like to ask, is the IEM a dynamic in ear? or an armature one? and also i would like to know the build quality,anyone here possesss these wonderful IEMs? care to share your experinces?regards, the headbanginghobbit
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| scanfiend | 7 Feb 2007, 09:07 AM Post #2 |
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As far as I know, these are dynamic drivers, not armature ones. I've tried it for about 20 minutes, and.......the bass was overpowering, to put it mildly It just overwhelms the mids and the highs. It really feels like a jackhammer going off in your head I guess it really boils down to what kind of music you like to hear it with.
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| mrhobbit | 7 Feb 2007, 02:44 PM Post #3 |
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rock n roll ain't noise pollution! thats why i like it i guess, quite a basshead yeah and i dont think it will be the best choice for instrumentals and vocals, more of a rock IEM if there is such a thing
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| AgentVX | 11 Feb 2007, 05:34 PM Post #4 |
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For those about to rock, we salute you! ![]() I'm interested in trying this IEM too, sometime in the near future. Heard from someone on Head-Fi that it's a bit like a mini-DT770. |
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| mrhobbit | 11 Feb 2007, 10:55 PM Post #5 |
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that will be cool,i REALLY like the sound, but its dififcult to decide which one i like more, the SR80 or this, but since i have headphones already, i think most likely i will go for this! the bass has got to be one of the strongest I have heard so far, havent reid the Um2s though, heard that dual drivers tend to stronger lows and bass, but thats way out of my budget.
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| zonalblitz | 11 Feb 2007, 11:28 PM Post #6 |
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It is not true that Dual Drivers tend to excel better in the low sections. However, they might perform better in terms of definitions of the music reproduced.
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| mrhobbit | 12 Feb 2007, 12:23 AM Post #7 |
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okay, thanks for the clarifications zonal. have not heard any dual drivers before though, gotta go try some day....
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| BassHead | 17 Feb 2007, 04:11 PM Post #8 |
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Just bought the DTX 50 yesterday at Jaben. I was looking for something bassy, and I had the UE SF5eb in mind. But surprisingly I found the5eb bass pretty disappointing. So I asked to try something else with a strong bass, and was recommended the DTX 50 by Wilson. And this time the bass really hit me. Of course after auditioning the headphones, my heart starts to get itchy and I decided to try it with an amp. And wow, everything just get tighten up and now the bass is both deep and punchy. In the end, I decided to pair the DTX 50 with the X-1 amp. And I return home a much poorer man, but with a big smile on my face. P.S. I had been lurking in this forum for sometime already, looking for all the infomation to my portable audio listening solution, and finally found time to visit Jaben for the 1st time yesterday. Even now I'm planning on my next headphone for home use. Next stop, cans
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| mrhobbit | 17 Feb 2007, 05:56 PM Post #9 |
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dude, are you by any chance the guy with the white sony PCDP? the dude with the evanesecene and hitomi CDs? i THINK that was you
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| Fongalv | 17 Feb 2007, 05:58 PM Post #10 |
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Welcome to our forums BassHead! Hope you enjoy your stay here, and sorry about your wallet Oh and I remember seeing someone with the PCDP yesterday afternoon with the DTX50s, must have been you right? |
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| MegaDeaf | 17 Feb 2007, 06:49 PM Post #11 |
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Hi basshead, welcome to the forum. Can explain more on why the 5eb is a disappointment to you? Not enough bass, too much bass, bass extension not enough? |
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| mrhobbit | 17 Feb 2007, 07:29 PM Post #12 |
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for me the SF5eb was also recommended by uncle wilson when i told him"more slam" when i tried it on, the bass was SO powerful, it literally drowned out EVERYTHING! and the bass wasnt tight or anything, it just sounded like an out of control subwoofer! the DTX50 was so much more well controlled and tight, its more like a punch, its concentrated and controlled! the amount of bassheads here is rather small i think, i thought i was the only one, now there is one more
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| ahdui | 17 Feb 2007, 07:39 PM Post #13 |
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If you are willing to spend more on amps, the sf5eb is the best bet. Higher end amps like portaphile,larocco & etc...controls this bass beast and tame it so well that you will drool over it. The bass is so much tamed, no longer overwhelming and slams very very deep down..giving you the subwoofer sensation. Details are no longer muffled/being covered up. |
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| zilk | 18 Feb 2007, 12:11 AM Post #14 |
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can someone post a picture of the DTX 50? |
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| MegaDeaf | 18 Feb 2007, 12:11 AM Post #15 |
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Yes I must admit that I'm one hell of a basshead. And I do believe that there are a few 5eb users here in the forum. As from what Ahdui had mentioned, the beast "5eb" need to be tame inorder to perform its potential. Sorry for the side track to the thread starter... |
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| BassHead | 18 Feb 2007, 02:03 AM Post #16 |
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Hi all. Thanks for the welcome. Yep I was that guy with an "out of fashion" white Sony PCDP.
Just to answer some of the question, when I was trying the sf5eb, I just couldn't get the low down slam I was looking for. The reverbation wasn't strong enough. And the sound is pretty lethagic. Maybe it was too muffled, or I couldn't get a correct fit. But with the DTX 50, the slam was immediately there. I could really feel the low down vibration of the jazz piano pieces from Hiromi, and yet it still can clearly play out the highs of the piano. I purposely choose those CDs that require the full frequency range like jazz and orchestra soundtracks on a SACD. Evanescence was used to gauge the slam of the headphone. And in rock, I feel that the DTX 50 is clearly better than sf5eb, especially on the mid bass. However the DTX 50 does feel a bit rough when playing the orchestra soundtrack. But amped it, the bass gets tightened, and with a more refined amp like X-1, the sound is much more controlled. Oh well, I should have tried the sf5eb again with an amp, but that would have totally blast the budget I have set for myself. At least I have found a small piece of bass nirvana with the DTX 50......
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| BassHead | 18 Feb 2007, 02:05 AM Post #17 |
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Don't tempt me and make me regret my purchase..... ha ha...
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| BassHead | 18 Feb 2007, 02:10 AM Post #18 |
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| zonalblitz | 18 Feb 2007, 10:12 AM Post #19 |
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Hi BassHead, no offence over here. I think you are refering the 'low slam' as bass punch? Reverberation is known as the decay path of sound. I didn't get the part when you mean not strong enough. Anyway, your 'out-of-fashion' PCDP still looks good. A little fun for fellow folks who had their hands on the Beyerdynamic : Chill Out CD, there is a track whereby you will feel how low the bass can reach to be audible. Alot of fun there. |
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| BassHead | 18 Feb 2007, 06:52 PM Post #20 |
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Perhaps it should be term as bass punch, don't really know how to describe in terms of words. But I couldn't get enough of the "sub-woofer" feel from the sf5eb, the low vibration or something like that. But it sounds very stable with some of the very low frequency tracks I used to listen with. My old Sony MDR EX71 couldn't take it and was cracking when playing these range of low frequency. I was looking for something that sounds punchy, thats why I choose the DTX 50 instead. Anyway, I think I'll continue to sample more headphone to find the right one for each genre of music. Sigh, it is so troublesome when you like a wide range of music. |
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| Q00 | 18 Feb 2007, 11:12 PM Post #21 |
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i second that lol |
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| mrhobbit | 19 Feb 2007, 12:06 AM Post #22 |
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hey basshead, care to give us an idea how burn in improves this particular pair of in-ears? maybe after fifty hours or so? cause i really like the way its sounding now, and if there is a remarkable improvement with brun in, i would no longer have the pleasant dilemma of choosing between this and the mylars
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| BassHead | 19 Feb 2007, 08:33 AM Post #23 |
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Will do. I have been burning in for 2 straight days already. Let you know my impression tonite. As for the Mylar, I found the tone a bit too bright for my taste when I tested it at Jaben, even with an amp. The punch wasn't as strong as the DTX 50. |
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| BassHead | 22 Feb 2007, 11:28 PM Post #24 |
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Well, after using the DTX 50 for a few days, I can say that I'm loving every minute
The bass is strong and punchy and I have turn down the bass of my PCDP's eq for the 1st time in years, and yet the bass is just as good. With a more neutral eq setting, the clarity and soundstage has improved. After burning in for over 60 hours, I feel that vocals has become clearer and fuller, and I would say it is quite good for a bassy IEM.
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| Singapura(Bug) | 24 Feb 2007, 11:45 PM Post #25 |
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The UE Super.fi EB's can have very good bass but they are very picky about which amp and which interlink you use. (tested it with symphonic pieces like the Lord of The Rings OST CD, with gangsta rap (50 Cent), rock (Filter, Marylin Manson and the likes) and with bands like The Alan Parsons Project and ELO. Dynamic music makes the EB's really shine. I have them now about 4 weeks and have tried them with 5 or 6 different interlinks (from pure silver to pure copper). I found that the Ultimate Link Affinity in combination with an LDM+ gives the best results. A silver cable allows for more highs but seperates the bass to much from the mids. The Affinity is a mix which makes the bass punchy and in-your-face. The LDM+ (low gain version) is quite hissy but keeps the bass in a nice tight package. Uncle Wilson gave me a Xtra to audition but it made the bass muddy and unclear. I have a Crossroads 2 now but it also doesn't improve on my LDM+. For comparison I bought a pair of Westone UM-1's but they can't stand up to the EB's. They're for sale again or I'm willing to trade them for a pair of cans or an amp. All in all I think the EB's are underappreciated. For good bass at a modest price they can't be beat. |
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| mrhobbit | 24 Feb 2007, 11:54 PM Post #26 |
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damn, have to delay getting my first pair of IEMs due to unforseen circumstances(bloody MP3 died on me)
so the UE 5EB doesnt go well with the Xtra but goes well with the LDM+? i think the LDM+ goes better with bass heavy head/ear phones? they certainly went VERY well with my FC-7! i wonder how does the Xtra sound with the SR60 and DTX50. |
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| BassHead | 25 Feb 2007, 02:30 AM Post #27 |
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The DTX 50 sound sweet with the Xtra X1. It keeps everything tight and punchy. |
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| zonalblitz | 25 Feb 2007, 02:37 AM Post #28 |
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Actually, I would strongly suggest enthusiasts to compare with the higher-end amplifiers to understand the potentials of the earphone and interconnect. Go with the levels and climb the ladder. Also, the higher-end amplifiers usually have smaller threshold for distortion. It is easier to pick up resolution in music on these amplifiers. |
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| xmiyax | 26 Feb 2007, 01:20 AM Post #29 |
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how does a dtx 50 fare against mylarone? |
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| mrhobbit | 26 Feb 2007, 02:04 AM Post #30 |
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the Mylars and this is surprisingly similar. the only difference is that i THINK the DTX50 has a little better details, with a much stronger bass which is its winning point. the Mylars just dont have the bass power of the DTX50 in my opinion. but the price difference being quite large, you might want to listen to both before making a decision. if you are into rock or metal, i am almost certain the DTX50 would be a better choice, but then again, its my ears so just go down to jaben and have a listen, dont worry, uncle wilson wont eat you even if you audition for a long time yet never buy anything i know, because i did that before
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and also i would like to know the build quality,anyone here possesss these wonderful IEMs? care to share your experinces?



It just overwhelms the mids and the highs. It really feels like a jackhammer going off in your head
I guess it really boils down to what kind of music you like to hear it with.


ha ha...

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