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| F | Nov 26 2006, 03:32 AM Post #61 |
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its undodgeable |
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| VirusLord | Nov 26 2006, 03:37 AM Post #62 |
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Proof? |
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| F | Nov 26 2006, 03:38 AM Post #63 |
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its a limit, limits can't be dodged |
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| VirusLord | Nov 26 2006, 05:00 AM Post #64 |
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IN THE FF7 UNIVERSE. In which case I can just argue that Link's shield can nullify physical attacks, and the mirror shield can additionally block magical attacks as well, making Link effectively invincible. In a neutral ground, Omnislash is not a limit, merely a devestating attack, and as such CAN be dodged. |
![]() Long live Virus Day! I can scientifically prove that boredom can kill you. However, by the time I figure out how to prove it, I'd have already died of boredom. "If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me "Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico "Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." - Emil, ToS:DotNW | |
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| F | Nov 26 2006, 08:31 PM Post #65 |
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then whats to say cloud can't dodge? he can jump about 50 feet in the air in reality if anything (ff7), the mirror shield would just have a auto reflect thing, the shield may be able to block physical attacks, but it could be stolen. also, summons again. They are able to pass through reflects making the mirror shield usless there is no way to say Link would beat Cloud or Cloud would beat Link, we would have to have them actually fight each other to see |
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I AM ALIVE. JOIN ME IN LIFE MY BROTHERS AND LIKE ONE SISTER! [23:00] Byrgg: my mom said it was getting too dark for her and she's getting turned off i think v_v CotF1692 (07:18:28 pm): you suck ojajrrj (07:18:34 pm): Only if you're nice. "Haha your mage can't read!" -My mom Silver ![]() Don't you know? Love will find a way. LOVE WILL FIND A WAY! THE LAWS OF NATURE BE DAMNED. [/cruise control] -Kijo | |
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| VirusLord | Nov 26 2006, 08:39 PM Post #66 |
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Personally, I think that Cloud's incredible jumping abilites come from his planet having lower than usual gravity, seeing as he is by no means the only one able to jump like that, but w/e. In a neutral ground, we completely eliminate both game's fighting systems and go with something more realistic. To make things fair, Cloud doesn't get a motorcycle and Link doesn't get Epona, they both have to fight on foot. If Cloud tries to use materia to summon, I'd say that'd give Link time to hit Cloud with an arrow right betwixt the eyes. Cloud's magic would be reflected by Link's Mirror Shield. Cloud has super jumping powers, but what's a super jump gonna do against Link? It just gives Link a major opportunity to shoot at Cloud and plenty of time to dodge. I doubt Link would have much trouble dodging around Cloud's attacks, Cloud doesn't swing his swords at super-insane speeds and Link is extremely agile. Cloud might be able to dodge some attacks, but from what I've seen he's not as agile as Link. With Link's agility and large selection of weapons, I'd say he'd eventually be able to bring Cloud down. |
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| TJ | Nov 26 2006, 08:46 PM Post #67 |
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Hopefully Link gets to use the EXTREMELY powerful dark magic in TP, which was sealed by the gods, that would give Cloud something to chew on. |
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| F | Nov 26 2006, 08:51 PM Post #68 |
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If Cloud can block bullets in the air, I am pretty sure he can block arrows in the air Cloud can also block like a mad man though, he wouldn't use materia then but he can use blade beam and such to attack Link at a distance as well, he could stay on the ground and fight Link sword to sword, and it would be a pretty even fight Cloud has a big selection to, he has a crap load of swords (more than link) and he can throw gernades in the game. |
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I AM ALIVE. JOIN ME IN LIFE MY BROTHERS AND LIKE ONE SISTER! [23:00] Byrgg: my mom said it was getting too dark for her and she's getting turned off i think v_v CotF1692 (07:18:28 pm): you suck ojajrrj (07:18:34 pm): Only if you're nice. "Haha your mage can't read!" -My mom Silver ![]() Don't you know? Love will find a way. LOVE WILL FIND A WAY! THE LAWS OF NATURE BE DAMNED. [/cruise control] -Kijo | |
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| TJ | Nov 26 2006, 09:05 PM Post #69 |
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A blade beam is going to get reflected by the mirror shield. Another thing, in TP, Link has an attack that automatically kills fallen opponents, if Cloud falls, he's doomed if he doesn't get up fast. This doesn't work on bosses, which I suspect is because of size related issues, and OHKOing a boss would kinda cheap, so it might not necessarily OHKO Cloud. But having a sword plunged through your chest when you're down on the ground can't be pretty, let alone it being by a sword that is superior to the Master Sword. I also think Epona is legit, whereas the motorcycle is not. If the motorcycle is left alone, Link can blow it up with a bomb(he also has bomb arrows, I would add), Epona has a brain, Epona can run, though if Cloud's motorcycle has some built in computer or something, then this point is null, though I have another. A motorcycle is supported only in the middle, if Cloud is swinging some huge sword around, that's going to cause some imbalance, Cloud's going to fall, and Link can use his finishing attack on him. Link has already shown in TP that he's fully capable of fighting and using all of his weapons on horseback. He has bombs, arrows, all variations of each, the Gale Boomerang, his sword, and probably some more that I don't yet have. All this in addition to the speed of horse that can trample Cloud in an instant. |
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| F | Nov 26 2006, 09:22 PM Post #70 |
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blade beam isn't magic or something reflectable, its more of a slash at a distance the bike is not imbalanced, it was designed for combat (has 3 modes), as you see in the movie, its weight is spread when it is used in combat, there for it doesn't go unbalanced and wouldn't knock over as he swung his huge swords (he faught on the bike alot in the movie) as for all of his ranged weapons, he can block bullets and cut bombs, he can block arrows boomerangs and cut bombs |
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I AM ALIVE. JOIN ME IN LIFE MY BROTHERS AND LIKE ONE SISTER! [23:00] Byrgg: my mom said it was getting too dark for her and she's getting turned off i think v_v CotF1692 (07:18:28 pm): you suck ojajrrj (07:18:34 pm): Only if you're nice. "Haha your mage can't read!" -My mom Silver ![]() Don't you know? Love will find a way. LOVE WILL FIND A WAY! THE LAWS OF NATURE BE DAMNED. [/cruise control] -Kijo | |
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| TJ | Nov 26 2006, 09:29 PM Post #71 |
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How does he block bullets? I don't think he can move that fast. And the Gale Boomerang causes whirlwinds, something Cloud's going to have a hard time avoiding. Link can still reflect the sword beam, in TP, he has a technique called the "Shield AttacK", and it reflects projectiles, magical or otherwise. Of course, Link has been deflecting rocks from Octoroks for who knows how long, so I don't even see why it was necessary to point out the above. |
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| F | Nov 26 2006, 09:34 PM Post #72 |
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Cloud does block bullets, watch the movie Cloud can throw items to cause things like whirlwinds to, even fire storms and such you can deflect the blade beam with your sheild attack, but then all he has to do is get up close and fight Link, Cloud is more agile than you guys are giving him credit for |
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I AM ALIVE. JOIN ME IN LIFE MY BROTHERS AND LIKE ONE SISTER! [23:00] Byrgg: my mom said it was getting too dark for her and she's getting turned off i think v_v CotF1692 (07:18:28 pm): you suck ojajrrj (07:18:34 pm): Only if you're nice. "Haha your mage can't read!" -My mom Silver ![]() Don't you know? Love will find a way. LOVE WILL FIND A WAY! THE LAWS OF NATURE BE DAMNED. [/cruise control] -Kijo | |
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| TJ | Nov 26 2006, 09:40 PM Post #73 |
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He may be more agile than said here, but is he more agile than Link? And if Link can make use of his wolf form, I don't see Cloud outspeeding him. Or course, if Link gets to use Fused Shadows(the aforementioned dark magic), then it's pretty much gg. |
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| VirusLord | Nov 26 2006, 09:45 PM Post #74 |
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IIRC, Cloud doesn't block bullets, his glasses do. But I can't remember everything, so maybe there was another point where Cloud blocked bullets, so meh. As far as I've seen, Cloud is more fast than he is agile. Link does flips, rolls, jumps, etc all the time, Cloud... doesn't. |
![]() Long live Virus Day! I can scientifically prove that boredom can kill you. However, by the time I figure out how to prove it, I'd have already died of boredom. "If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me "Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico "Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." - Emil, ToS:DotNW | |
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| F | Nov 26 2006, 09:46 PM Post #75 |
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the bike could keep up with him, if not then he would just beat him the same way he beat the other super speed guy does he get to use the dark magic? and I am sure if Cloud could take on Seph's final form, then he could take Link yes, he did block bullets with his swords while fighting the gun guy |
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I AM ALIVE. JOIN ME IN LIFE MY BROTHERS AND LIKE ONE SISTER! [23:00] Byrgg: my mom said it was getting too dark for her and she's getting turned off i think v_v CotF1692 (07:18:28 pm): you suck ojajrrj (07:18:34 pm): Only if you're nice. "Haha your mage can't read!" -My mom Silver ![]() Don't you know? Love will find a way. LOVE WILL FIND A WAY! THE LAWS OF NATURE BE DAMNED. [/cruise control] -Kijo | |
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