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Topic Started: Sep 4 2006, 06:28 PM (774 Views)
VirusLord
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Hm... I think Mercenaries should have another promotion instead of Ranger, but I can't think of anything.
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"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin
Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico
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Skoteinos Metamfiezomai
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I have an idea...they're rangers w/out horses...like medivil rangers kinda... (you'd change their name to something like...i dunno) They go by foot and hide in the forst. THey use knives (never swords) and bows. ALot like a ranger...but kinda a cross between a ranger and a rogue.
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I have to agree with GC here.
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Hm... yeah, that could work, but since we're talking about a mercenary promotion, it would be swords rather than knives. It's a good idea, though.
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I can scientifically prove that boredom can kill you. However, by the time I figure out how to prove it, I'd have already died of boredom.
"If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me
"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin
Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico
"Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." - Emil, ToS:DotNW
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Pupil {Mage/Shaman} (anima)
Recruit {Soldier/Cavalier} (lance) [Soldier promotes to Halberdier* and General]
Journeyman {Pirate/Fighter} (axe)
Fencer {Myrmidon/Mercenary} (swords, sword-bearing unit) [Mercenary promotes to Hero and Ranger Troop**]
Pegasus Trainee {Pegasus Knight/Wyvern Rider} (lances, flying, rides pegasus)
Nun {Cleric/Troubador} (staff)
Apprentice {Archer/Nomad} (bows) [Nomad promotes to Ranger and Nomad Trooper***]
Thug {Thief/Spy} (swords, lockpick) [Spy promotes to Assassin and Rogue, Thief promotes to Rogue and Master Thief****]
Acolyte {Monk/Priest} (Light) [Priest promotes to Bishop and Judge]
Dancer/Manakete (???) [I'm still working on this]

*Halberdier uses lances and gets a +15 crit boost
**Ranger Troop uses swords and bows, like an unmounted Ranger
***Nomad Trooper uses only bows, has 8 move, and has a revised skill: can move again after attacking (most mounted units can move again after an action, but not after an attack)
****Master Thief can use a lockpick and can steal any unequipped item if speed is sufficient


So, what do you think? This is my revised trainee class tree, which incidentally covers every class in the game except for Brigand. I still want to try and throw a pegasus mage in there, but we'll see.
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"If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me
"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin
Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico
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Skoteinos Metamfiezomai
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Sounds good, but I thought that an acolyte was a priest of dark magic. (I'm probably wrong about that)
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I have to agree with GC here.
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Eh, I think acolyte has something to do with churches, I'm not sure, but I've heard the name acolyte in a book before and I thought it had to do with the church.

Technically speaking, druid isn't exactly a dark-oriented sort of name, but they use that.
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I can scientifically prove that boredom can kill you. However, by the time I figure out how to prove it, I'd have already died of boredom.
"If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me
"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin
Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico
"Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." - Emil, ToS:DotNW
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i still think that myrmidon and thief should have been the same, but besides that its okay, what happened to the armor knights? oh wait scratch the theif and myrimdon thing you are trying to cover every single individual class, and even more unique ones. trying to have it end with no unit having the same path?
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Oh, shoot, I forgot about the knight! I thought it seemed really odd for a recruit (well, mainly just Amelia) to suddenly start walking around in a huge suit of armor that ought to be WAY too heavy for them, so I decided to throw in the Soldier class to make things better, but then I forgot about Knights. I'll figure that out later.

The reason I didn't throw thieves and myrmidons together is because Myrmidons and Mercenaries (and Swordmasters and Heros) are classified as sword-bearing units (in other words, they get clobbered by Swordslayer the way a Cavalier gets clobbered by a Horseslayer). So I figured Myrmidons and Mercenaries should probably promote from the same class, which would also be a sword-bearing unit.
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Long live Virus Day!
I can scientifically prove that boredom can kill you. However, by the time I figure out how to prove it, I'd have already died of boredom.
"If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me
"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin
Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico
"Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." - Emil, ToS:DotNW
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Hey, cotf or Brygg, can you change the title of this topic to custom FE stuff? I tend to move on past things pretty quickly, and I've gone from thinking about trainees to something else, but I don't want to make a new topic.

My latest design is the Morpher class (for lack of a better name; I figured Morpher was better than Transformer). Basically, it's a manakete that can morph into more than just a dragon. I've got 8 different morphing stones planned out, and I was wondering what you guys thought. Oh yeah, and the Morpher that I designed these for has 4 con. Each morphing stone also gives certain stat boosts.

Wolfstone - 4 mt, 3 wt; +2 spd [total: +4 str, +2 spd] E rank
(looks like that unpromoted wolf thing from FE8, I can't remember the name)
Hawkstone - 5 mt, 6 wt; +1 str, +1 def [total: +6 str, +1 def, -2 spd] E rank
(this would need a custom sprite)
Zombiestone - 8 mt, 8 wt; +1 str; poison attack [total: +9 str, -4 spd] D rank
(like the revanants from FE8)
Wyrmstone - 8 mt, 4 wt; +2 spd [total: +8 str, +2 spd] C rank
(like a Wyvern Knight from FE8, but without the actual knight)
Spiderstone - 11 mt, 9 wt; +1 str, +3 def [total: +12 str, +3 def, -5 spd] C rank
(like a Bael from FE8)
Fluffstone - 10 mt, 4 wt; +1 spd, +2 res [total: +10 str, +1 spd, +2 res] B rank
(like Fa/Fae's dragon form from FE6, if you've seen it then you'll understand the name)
Dragonstone - 13 mt, 7 wt; +1 str, +2 def [total: +14 str, +2 def, -3 spd] A rank
(looks like Myrrh's dragon form from FE8)
Lightstone - 20 mt, 11 wt; +5 str, +5 res [total: +25 str, +5 res, -7 spd] S rank
(custom sprite, this is an enormous multi-winged goddess-like form with a light attack)

The Finalstone is meant to be more powerful than anything else could possibly be, just so you know. So, does this look good?
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I can scientifically prove that boredom can kill you. However, by the time I figure out how to prove it, I'd have already died of boredom.
"If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me
"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin
Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico
"Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." - Emil, ToS:DotNW
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Come on you guys, will you stop ignoring me? Do I have to post my entire weapon and spell list to get you to respond?
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Long live Virus Day!
I can scientifically prove that boredom can kill you. However, by the time I figure out how to prove it, I'd have already died of boredom.
"If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me
"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin
Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico
"Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." - Emil, ToS:DotNW
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Alright, what is it with everyone ignoring my topics? No one has been posting anything on this one OR my Atelier Iris topic! :angry:
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Long live Virus Day!
I can scientifically prove that boredom can kill you. However, by the time I figure out how to prove it, I'd have already died of boredom.
"If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me
"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin
Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico
"Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." - Emil, ToS:DotNW
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sorry Virus.......................
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Who cares? My existance is lost....what else is there left to lose?


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Gah! Fine, I'll post my improved magic list as well!

Fire - 5 mt, 4 wt, 90 ht, 40 uses, E-rank
Thunder - 8 mt, 6 wtt, 80 ht, 5 crt, 30 uses, D-rank
Aircalibur - 8 mtt, 5 wt, 85 ht, 25 uses, C-rank ---- strong against flying units
Elfire - 10 mt, 9 wt, 80 ht, 25 uses, C-rank
Bolting - 12 mt, 20 wt, 60 ht, 5 uses, B-rank ---- 3-10 range
Holy Thunder - 10 mt, 10 wt, 70 ht, 5 crt, 15 uses, B-rank ---- reverse triangle
Twincalibur - 9 mt, 13 wt, 75 ht, 30 uses, A-rank ---- attack consecutively
Fimbulvetr - 13 mt, 11 wt, 80 ht, 20 uses, A-rank
Forblaze - 19 mt, 13 wt, 80 ht, 5 crt, 20 uses, S-rank

Lightning - 4 mt, 6 wt, 95 ht, 5 crt, 35 uses, E-rank
Shine - 6 mt, 8 wt, 90 ht, 10 crt, 30 uses, D-rank
Divine - 8 mt, 10 wt, 85 ht, 13 crt, 25 uses, C-rank
Judgement - 5 mt, 8 wt, 80 htt, 35 crt, 20 uses, C-rank
Purge - 10 mt, 20 wt, 75 ht, 5 crt, 5 uses, B-rank ---- 3-10 range
Unholy Gleam - 9 mt, 11 wt, 80 ht, 10 crt, 15 uses, B-rank ---- reverse triangle
Unholy Light - 9 mt, 11 wt, 75 ht, 5 crt, 15 uses, A-rank ---- reverse triangle, x2 vs. anima
Aura - 12 mt, 14 wt, 85 ht, 15 crt, 20 uses, A-rank
Aureola - 15 mt, 15 wt, 95 ht, 25 crt, 20 uses, S-rank

Flux - 7 mt, 8 wt, 75 ht, 35 uses, E-rank
Fission* - 3 mt, 10 wt, 80 ht, 30 uses, D-rank ---- halves enemy resistance
Nosferatu - 10 mt, 12 wt, 70 ht, 5 crt, 25 uses, C-rank ---- leech enemy life
Venom - 8 mt, 11 wt, 75 ht, 25 uses, C-rank ---- poison enemy
Eclipse - ? mt, 18 wt, 45 ht, 5 uses, B-rank ---- 3-10 range, halves enemy HP
Dark Twister - 11 mtt, 12 wt, 70 ht, 5 crt, 15 uses, B-rank ---- reverse triangle
Luna - 0 mt, 14 wt, 65 ht, 20 uses, A-rank ---- ignore enemy resistance
Fenrir - 15 mt, 16 wt, 70 ht, 20 uses, A-rank
Apocalypse - 22 mt, 18 wt, 75 ht, 20 uses, S-rank

*credit for Fission goes to chessrules on the Tactics Heroes forum, it was just too good of an idea not to steal.


The S-rank tomes have the same names as the FE6 tomes because the animations are the same, but the stats are completely different. I really liked the Aureola and Forblaze animations, and I went out on a limb and assumed I'd like Apocalypse too. You'll notice that the S-rank tomes don't have stat boosters, just like the FE7 S-rank weapons.
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I can scientifically prove that boredom can kill you. However, by the time I figure out how to prove it, I'd have already died of boredom.
"If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me
"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin
Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico
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Since everyone is still ignoring me <_< I'll put it all into an easier to read format. There, NOW will you all give me some feedback?

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|Name         |Might |Weight |Hit |Crit |Uses |Rank |Other
|Fire         |5     |4      |90  |0    |40   |E    |
|Thunder      |8     |6      |80  |5    |30   |D    |
|Aircalibur   |8     |5      |85  |0    |25   |C    |strong vs. fliers
|Elfire       |10    |9      |80  |0    |25   |C    |
|Bolting      |12    |20     |60  |0    |5    |B    |3-10 range
|Holy Thunder |10    |10     |70  |5    |15   |B    |reverse triangle
|Twincalibur  |9     |13     |75  |0    |30   |A    |attack consecutively
|Fimbulvetr   |13    |11     |80  |0    |20   |A    |
|Forblaze     |19    |13     |80  |5    |20   |S    |

|Lightning    |4     |6      |95  |5    |35   |E    |
|Shine        |6     |8      |90  |10   |30   |D    |
|Divine       |8     |10     |85  |13   |25   |C    |
|Judgement    |5     |8      |80  |35   |20   |C    |
|Purge        |10    |20     |75  |5    |5    |B    |3-10 range
|Unholy Gleam |9     |11     |80  |10   |15   |B    |reverse triangle
|Unholy Light |9     |11     |75  |5    |15   |A    |reverse triangle, x2 vs. anima
|Aura         |12    |14     |85  |15   |20   |A    |
|Aureola      |15    |15     |95  |25   |20   |S    |

|Flux         |7     |8      |75  |0    |35   |E    |
|Fission      |3     |10     |80  |0    |30   |D    |halves res
|Nosferatu    |10    |12     |70  |5    |25   |C    |leech life
|Venom        |8     |11     |75  |0    |25   |C    |poison
|Eclipse      |?     |18     |45  |0    |5    |B    |3-10 range, halves HP
|Dark Twister |11    |12     |70  |5    |15   |B    |reverse triangle
|Luna         |0     |14     |65  |0    |20   |A    |ignore res
|Fenrir       |15    |16     |70  |0    |20   |A    |
|Apocalypse   |22    |18     |75  |0    |20   |S    |
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I can scientifically prove that boredom can kill you. However, by the time I figure out how to prove it, I'd have already died of boredom.
"If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me
"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin
Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico
"Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." - Emil, ToS:DotNW
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Here we go, the easier-to-read and updated version of the morphing stones. NOW can someone give me some opinion on all this?

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|Name         |Might |Weight |Hit |Crit |Uses |Rank |Bonus
|Wolfstone    |4     |3      |100 |10   |30   |E    |+2 spd
|Hawkstone    |5     |6      |80  |0    |30   |E    |+1 str, +1 def
|Zombiestone  |8     |8      |65  |5    |30   |D    |+1str, poison
|Wyrmstone    |8     |4      |90  |0    |25   |C    |+2 spd
|Spiderstone  |11    |9      |70  |0    |25   |C    |+1 str, +3 def
|Fluffstone   |10    |4      |85  |5    |25   |B    |+1 spd, +3 res
|Dragonstone  |13    |7      |70  |0    |20   |A    |+1 str, +2 def
|Lightstone   |20    |11     |95  |15   |20   |S    |+5 str, +5 res
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Long live Virus Day!
I can scientifically prove that boredom can kill you. However, by the time I figure out how to prove it, I'd have already died of boredom.
"If my back had lips and could reach around to my face, it would kiss me right now." - Me
"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing." ~Ben Franklin
Hama (about Misha talking in her sleep): "Like 'Ungh' or 'Moheh' or 'Ah, no...' or 'Lyner, not in there...' or..." ~Ar Tonelico
"Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." - Emil, ToS:DotNW
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