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Please choose the answer that most closely describes how you feel about your characters:
My characters are actual people - individuals with their opinions, philosophies, and logic. I do not have complete control of the things they do because they all react to situations in their own way based on their unique personalities. They will react to 12 (66.7%)
My characters are completely under my control. They have they're own personalities, and they are individuals but I decide what they do. They react to different situations the way I want them to based on how I want a plot to progress. I take their pers 4 (22.2%)
Neither. (please comment) 2 (11.1%)
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How do you view your characters?
Topic Started: Jun 27 2011, 03:13 PM (367 Views)
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(I'm totally stealing this from a friend on another site, haha)

I've posted this poll just because I'm curious to see how people answer. If you have a different philosophy regarding your characters, please share!
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All I know is that Icy rules her characters with an iron Nazi fist, hurr hurr hurr.
O'zen : Bronze Lenth
Lowen : Beryllium Lerriloth
Jerund : Brown Jerusk
Hama : Green Hamask
Eevai : Garnet Iopeth
Sh'ol : Graphite Hellioth
Kh'sev : Grey Saiyeth
Bervaidi : Blue Bervask
Syrsha : Brown Kalayth
Rosinthew : Candidate
Khola : Weyrfolk
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Iradial,Jun 27 2011
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All I know is that Icy rules her characters with an iron Nazi fist, hurr hurr hurr.

>.> She would....
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Yay, Ira stole what I said out of my mouth.


Firstly, this poll is anonymous so I can't see who voted what, but know if you voted for the first one that this isn't intended as a personal attack.

Anyway, I sometimes have characters who completely write themselves. My old Aertanian character Mai for example, essentially wrote herself in every single post. To an extent, Al'dai does the same thing. In fact, I used to believe that all of my characters basically had minds of their own and I couldn't control them.

Then I realized, rather recently actually, that I came up with all my characters myself, didn't I? I wrote their profiles, and I knew how they'd react in certain situations. It suddenly made a lot more sense to me that saying "they write themselves" is sort of a cop-out way of avoiding responsibility for their actions (which I don't think is necessary anyway since I don't believe writers have to face responsibilities for what their characters do). After all, I wrote my characters in the first place, so I can write my characters in the future. I have the ultimate control of what they do. Because I know their personalities so well, it surely seems like they write themselves. But ultimately, I am the one coming up with the post. Characters are not little brain cells sitting in your head making your fingers type... They are entirely imaginary identities that you as authors make up. Too many authors I know don't take responsibility for their writing. You're the one writing them; and if they're writing themselves, its really that you're a really good writer who knows your characters well enough to make their posts seem natural to you.

This is just what I believe, and I know some people will disagree.

However, I also think that if you "have no muse for a character," you're using the fictional, mythological entity of inspiration as an excuse for not wanting to write. I personally have no problem with someone who doesn't feel like writing; it happens to everybody; it happens to me, ched, ira, and isi just as much as it happens to everybody else. But saying you "have no muse" is basically way of saying you "don't feel like writing" without wanting to say that you don't feel like writing because maybe you feel guilty or don't want to take responsibility for it.

Anyway, I know people will probably disagree with me on that count too...

tl;dr: Characters don't spring up into existence like subjects of spontaneous generation, they come up out of your imagination. If you wrote them in the first place, which you did, then you have the power to control them in the future and write them as you see fit... generally in holding with their personalities, which you created in the first place.

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*shrug*

What my character say generally just comes to me in the moment. I can't really force them to say things they wouldn't say or make them participate in plots they wouldn't be comfortable with. There is a mental "block" that keeps me from doing so. So while they are just figments of my imagination, part of the fun of RP is developing them to the point that they take on a life of their own without me needing to consciously puppet their strings around =)


EDIT: When I say "I have no muse for this character" I literally can't think of a damn thing to write for them. It's not that I don't WANT to write. If I don't want to write I damn well say so. If I can't think of what a character will do or say in a situation or and they aren't "offering" any input, I have no muse. And nothing to feel guilty about.
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Icy, I think you're getting so wrapped up in how the phrase 'the characters write themselves' doesn't make sense that you're missing the point of it. It's not supposed to make sense. You are supposed to take a second glance and realize how nonsensical it is, but also realize that it has some basis in how you write. No one actually believes that their characters spontaneously appear on a page. We all know that they are creations of our own minds. That's why we find it so exhilarating when our characters become so easy to understand 'it's almost as if (an important part of the phrase you're forgetting) the characters write themselves.' It's not a cop out or a shift in responsibility, it's an expression of a feeling we all sometimes get when we write. :)

Edit: Also, Fishy's absolutely right about the 'no muse' thing.
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Hee hee Icy I just like poking fun at you. :> Characters, OBEY.

You make some good points Icy, if the first option is taken to a radical degree. I voted the first option, I guess because I prefer to let things flow, which happens when a character really clicks, so to speak. That's how O'zen is - he's developed so much that writing him is easy, I don't really have to think about it, and thus he almost seems like his own entity. But I'm still the writer, of course.

Vassili on the other hand - he's new, I haven't played him much, so my writing doesn't really flow with him. His personality and actions and morals haven't really clarified yet, so I have to think a lot more when I write with him. Thus, the way I write with him is closer to the second option.

Really, I'm kind of a mix of the two, since I like to make plots happen. :) Hurr hurr. I guess, to me, it's not so much a matter of control as it is flow. If that makes sense.

O'zen : Bronze Lenth
Lowen : Beryllium Lerriloth
Jerund : Brown Jerusk
Hama : Green Hamask
Eevai : Garnet Iopeth
Sh'ol : Graphite Hellioth
Kh'sev : Grey Saiyeth
Bervaidi : Blue Bervask
Syrsha : Brown Kalayth
Rosinthew : Candidate
Khola : Weyrfolk
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All that is true; I guess when I say my characters write themselves, if ever, it's more like "I know their characters/personalities so well that I can write them effortlessly in any given situation... so effortlessly, in fact, that they appear to be writing themselves." That, and its very rare for me to hear a character's voice in my head or to hear them literally speaking to me... Typically my characters are a bit more subconscious than that.

In the past, some of the less talented writers I've written with have complained that their characters weren't writing themselves and that their characters didn't have anything to do or say. I think sometimes, amateur writers literally expect their characters to write themselves... Obviously, it doesn't happen. I guess most people realize that.

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Sandstone Wingrider Dacielle of Copper Vylendrieth :: Granite Wingrider L'del of Grey Xakoeth :: Searchrider & Marble Wingrider M’ril of Blue Notalith :: Shale Wingrider K’dyn of Green Scherezath :: Baby Azora

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Yeah, definitely, I've seen that too. And that can be annoying. Haha.
O'zen : Bronze Lenth
Lowen : Beryllium Lerriloth
Jerund : Brown Jerusk
Hama : Green Hamask
Eevai : Garnet Iopeth
Sh'ol : Graphite Hellioth
Kh'sev : Grey Saiyeth
Bervaidi : Blue Bervask
Syrsha : Brown Kalayth
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With my RP characters, I generally feel like the second option describes them. Sometimes it does feel like ideas for plots just appear in my mind, and other times I have to work really hard to think of what my character would do. For the most part, I'm a control freak and I like deciding for myself what my characters will get involved in.

My original writing characters are different. When I'm writing a story, it sometimes can tell like the character already know what they're going to do and I'm just writing it down. Sometimes they even go and change the main focus of the plot on me.

I think part of it has to do with the fact that when I RP, I'm working with other people. My characters' reactions depend on what the other person is doing, so I can't just let my characters run wild.
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