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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 3 2009, 10:49 AM (974 Views) | |
| TheDes | Dec 16 2009, 11:18 AM Post #16 |
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The aim of an event is for the people attending to have a decent time. Quality over quantity, every time. Unless this is being funded exclusivley by any group that has restrictions then I don't see why we are even having this discussion. I don't care whether there are more of x than y in any given location as its still discrimanatory no matter whom you side with if you are placing it specifically on a certain day for the benefit of one group. If it were the case the place was only available on one day at the weekend, I would not have an issue because the choice would have been made on the grounds of availability. However I'm not interested on attending if this is based soley on making any one group happy and I doubt I will be the only one. Just as many reasons can be found as to why Saturday is a better option - many families will spend time together on Sunday with the hectic Saturday out of the way. The gender disparity in our hobby will usually mean in fact that we have more available time during the day on Saturday and so I'm not interested in seeing this wasted simply because it may be inconvienient to those who have made a choice about which day they are available. If it were the case that sometimes it would be one day, and sometimes the other, then once again I'd have no problem as everyone would be receiving an equal amount of understanding. If my only choice is to attend or not attend and yet others also have the choice of day then that's not fair. |
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| Marauder Mitch | Dec 16 2009, 11:28 AM Post #17 |
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I think the event shoudl be run on a sunday not because of any religious reasoning but because it is the best day as i more time to get it organised and Mike Wallis a guy from clapham can come as he has hockey. But lets get the religious things finished. We are a wargames club not a religious organisation Sunday because it easier and more time. |
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| TheDes | Dec 16 2009, 11:36 AM Post #18 |
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Just to clarify - I'm available either day (potentially) but I'm not for anything thats done for one group to the potential cost of another. |
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| Stomm | Dec 16 2009, 11:36 AM Post #19 |
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Sunday is generally a heck of a lot easier. As I've said, it allows us Saturday evening to get things set up, print out handouts, sort out first game draws and so on. It also means that if there are any last minute cancellations, we'd probably find out on the Saturday, rather than after the first game was supposed to have started... As an aside, my availability in the New Year, or more precisely when I know I am, or may well be up in Nottingham. I've got a Warmaster one day event on the 16th (yes I know, as Saturday. That is dictated by WHW's opening times more than anything else though), and then I may well end up going to the GCN AGM on Saturday the 30th of January. If we can get a decent sized delegation for this that would be good IMHO, assuming we get the invite of course... Other than that I've got my daughter's 2nd birthday on the 3rd (but then Avenue House is closed then anyway), so I'm potentially free for the weekends of the 10th and 24th of January, but that might be pushing it a bit with the wife. February as far as I am aware is still unbooked, but I'm sure the wife will fill it with something soon... |
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| Stomm | Dec 16 2009, 11:44 AM Post #20 |
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The only group the event should actually benefit is the club members, by advertising the club to as many potential members as possible. There is of course also the possible consideration of expanding the club to have maybe one weekend club-day a month, or every two weeks if it can be made to work with committee attendence and of course overall attendence and cost considerations taken into account. Whatever day you decide to run anything on is not decided on a whim. Personally having the club night run on a Friday would suit me better than any other night of the week, as my social life ended a long time ago, and the wife is more likely to get home from work early on a Friday than any other day. So not having to worry about getting up too early the next day would work wonders for me. But I know people have work drinks, still go out to pubs, clubs and the like, not everyone is stuck at home with toddlers as I am. So not wanting to do it on the same night as the Finchley Games Club (mainly board games, CCG's and RPG's apprently) which is on a Tuesday, or the same night as the Brent Cross GW store's games night (Thursday) means that we could only really have the club night on a Monday or a Wednesday. And as it happens the hall that we ultimately want to be using is currently only ever used by the Scouts on a Monday night, so Wednesday nights it is.... |
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| Marauder Mitch | Dec 16 2009, 12:00 PM Post #21 |
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Cool. Dave, i know several people who would be willing to travel around london for a good games night so not just local. I have a mate coming from Ilford and one from Whitechapel tonight. A good club will get people to travel. |
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| Stomm | Dec 16 2009, 02:18 PM Post #22 |
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Out of interest, what are people's views on a two day event? Is that being too ambitious for this year, should we try to run it with other clubs in the area and so on...? |
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| Marauder Mitch | Dec 16 2009, 02:22 PM Post #23 |
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Later in the year is a possibilty but clashing with other events once they are released is a issue. I know i can get quite a few players from Up North to come down. I am thinking August would be the best time for Dave and me as he is on holidays. |
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| Dave Walton | Dec 16 2009, 05:12 PM Post #24 |
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On the whole Sunday thing....Lots of one day tournaments are on Saturdays so Religion aside, it's a bit different (I'm a devout practising Catholic and I'll find a way to go to Church on Sunday, regardless of running the event) I know at least 2 people who will be able to come on a Sunday who won't on a Saturday. Any weekend in Feb is fine for me, and apart from the 19th (ish) any in January too. I'm happy to run a two day event given the opportunity, the problem will be finiding a slot in the tournament Calendar for a 'North London Grand Tournament' I can't make it down tonight, but after Christmas I think we should talk about this in greater detail. |
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| Stomm | Dec 17 2009, 10:15 AM Post #25 |
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Take a quick gander at my, as per usual rather waffly post on the size of the hall here Basically it looks like the stable hall only has space for maybe two more boards than our current room. It has got a really nice exposed beam pitched roof though... ![]() This essentially means that whenever we do an event, it's likely to have a maximum capacity of 16-20 players. The only way I can think of increasing this is by using both our current room and the stable block, but requiring players to move between two gaming areas a good few minutes apart isn't really a good idea IMHO. This would however work for running a two system event, or two events at the same time on the same day. For example I fancy trying to run a Warmaster or Warmaster Ancients event, we could even have a go at intergrating it as a combined campaign day or weekend. Heck, this sort of thing would work really well for a BFG/Epic/40k campaign... Anyway, that's getting somewhat off the point, but is certainly food for thought in the future. In the meantime, lets just concentrate on trying to put on at least one Warhammer tournie in the New Year, maybe with a 2nd to follow about a month later... |
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| Damian | Dec 18 2009, 10:57 AM Post #26 |
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+++Annointing the Blessed Cogitators+++ +++Making supplications to the Machine Spirits+++ +++Reciting the Litanies of Geo-Positioning+++ +++Establishing Coordinates+++ +++DEEPSTRIKING+++ (with the smell of ozone and singed beard I have arrived to make my first post. Woot) Do we have a firm idea of how many people would commit to a tourney in Feb yet? Talk of room sizes, and limits on numbers is a moot point until a decent number of people have said they'll come. For the record, I'm throwing my hat (finely forged Gromril helm) into the ring. The talk a few weeks ago was that the tournie would be 2250 with South Coast GT comp. If we have more people intersted than our current space allows, what's everyone's opinion on doing this first tourney at 1500. We could butt tables together allowing 3 games on 4x4 tables instead of 2 on 6x4 and the turnaround time would be quicker. Of course, that's a moot point too until we have some idea of numbers and I'm assuming that most people would rather play at 2250, but I'm throwing the idea in there for debate. |
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| bakfire | Dec 18 2009, 03:38 PM Post #27 |
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i will be up for attending providing im not working and the wife doesnt kill me. [rant] AS to the sunday religion argument we went down this route with the club the first time round when trying to find a venue and a club night and it very nearly ended the clubs existance... The only consideration should be the gamers and so the dates should be selected based on clashes with other tournaments / events / availability of the venue / people to run it. if people cant make it due to one commitment or another be it family / work or religious then sorry and we hope to see you next time. I wouldnt expect the club to organise the tournament around my shift pattern. [\rant] |
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| Stomm | Dec 18 2009, 04:14 PM Post #28 |
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I suppose one possible advantage of a Saturday tournie might be that we could end things a little later. If you allow 2 hours for each game, start playing at 10:00am, lunch at 12:00pm, start again at 1:00pm, 3rd game at 3pm, then a final game at 5pm for a finish at 7pm, and final results at 7:30pm. That would allow for four games rather than the usual three. Or of course you could have a finish at 5-6pm, and then an extra club evening afterwards... Plenty of options to think of. |
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| Dave Walton | Dec 18 2009, 06:07 PM Post #29 |
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Here's my thinking on the event as it stands right now. 2000pts rather than 2250 and (heavily modified) SCGT comp for the event. I'll put a post up on TWF to see if we could get much in the way of outside interest. I'll regale you with the results of this as soon as I have them. EDIT: http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=66899 Seems like a fair bit of interest... |
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| Dave Walton | Dec 19 2009, 01:51 PM Post #30 |
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Ok, I've written a comp pack (well, heavily modified the SCGT one) and I just need to speak to Rob about it before publishing it together with a rules pack and guidelines of how to get to the venue. This means that we need to confirm A) the date the numbers we can fit in the venue and C) the Price. If possible I'd like to say A) 7th Feb, 24 would be ideal but at a minimum say 16 and C) £15. Until we have those three things sorted out we can't go any further at this stage. EDIT: And we need a name for the event...I was thinking IMPFEST I |
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the numbers we can fit in the venue and C) the Price. If possible I'd like to say A) 7th Feb,
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