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Topic Started: Apr 3 2014, 07:40 PM (496 Views)
Rob
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Sutil to race without water bottle to cut weight

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/308749/...-to-cut-weight/

I could see getting away with this at Spa or Monza, but the heat in Bahrain is pretty brutal. I remember when Alonso's bottle malfunctioned a few years ago at Bahrain and he looked like the Crypt Keeper after the race. I know he'll probably be hydrating like crazy leading up to the race, but still seems like a bad idea.
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Norbert
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It just shows how stupid the rules on weight are, and how the FIA cocked up on their assumption on the weight of the new powertrain. Allegedly they are 15-20kg heavier than expected, and most teams are barely at the minimum weight without ballast. Clearly you cannot change the weight limit during the season without approval from all the teams, if at all, but if it is so much of a issue a driver is going to go without a couple of litres of fluid during one of the hottest drives of the year, it's just madness. Surely the FIA doctor should have something to say?
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TheCompleteGuitarist
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Dehydration is cause for a lot of concern health wise even in the moment. They could hallucinate, pass out, lose nervous functions that cut response times.

It's definitely not a good idea.
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Interesting this weight thing. In Malaysia, Vettel was radioing the pit about drops on his visor while behind Rosberg, a little while after that Rosberg managed to built some gap again. Did Rosberg got rid of his excess through a hole?













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FIA to introduce new helmets to prevent drivers dehydrating....

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Norbert,Apr 3 2014
10:28 PM
It just shows how stupid the rules on weight are, and how the FIA cocked up on their assumption on the weight of the new powertrain.  Allegedly they are 15-20kg heavier than expected, and most teams are barely at the minimum weight without ballast.  Clearly you cannot change the weight limit during the season without approval from all the teams, if at all, but if it is so much of a issue a driver is going to go without a couple of litres of fluid during one of the hottest drives of the year, it's just madness.  Surely the FIA doctor should have something to say?

Somehow a challenging area of regulations, but...
Its not like the FIA hinder the driver/team to bring water bottles along.
Its the driver/team choice not to bring water along for the race.

If you increased the minimum required weight with e.g. 50kg, there would still be some more heavier weight drivers that would complain.
For some reason you do not see super heavy weights in e.g. competitive horse racing either.
F1 at the pinnacle is not for everybody. Get over it or switch to truck racing. <devil>

There are plenty of examples of very good race drivers that could not make it in F1 as they were simply too big.
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"On the subject of driver weights, there has been a bit of a fuss about how some of the heavier drivers may be dehydrating themselves before qualifying to keep their weight down, like boxers before a weigh-in. Sauber's Adrian Sutil was complaining that he would not be able to use a drinks bottle in his car this weekend as a result of trying to save weight.

"Fernando Alonso put that into perspective when he revealed he had not even used one in Malaysia, renowned as one of the two toughest races on the calendar, this year as the lesser demands of the new cars meant he did not need to. 'I remember going to Malaysia and having very specific preparation and from Saturday doing a lot of strange things to get hydrated,' Alonso said. 'They asked me on Saturday, 'do you want a drink system on the car?' and I said: 'No, I don't want.' I don't even sweat sometimes. So I had the Malaysia race even without the drink system. It's not necessary any more.'"


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/26871684
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Rob
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I don't even sweat sometimes


And somehow people claim racers aren't athletes?

Anyway it was a bad idea for Alonso, and a bad idea for Suitl.
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Rob,Apr 5 2014
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I don't even sweat sometimes


And somehow people claim racers aren't athletes?

Anyway it was a bad idea for Alonso, and a bad idea for Suitl.

I recall some years back, when F1 driver bio-stats also where sent with the live tv-feed. From start of race till finish, their pulse rates were in the 180-200 bpm range for up to 2 hours. You do not have that in many other sports except marathon, ironmans, some classic cycle etape races and the 50km cross country ski runs. So of course F1 drivers have to be among the best fit athletes in this world.
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I think back to Monaco in 93 (I think, Senna was still in a McLaren) when Mansell thought he had a puncture and came out of the pits just behind Senna.

He tried everything he could to get past but couldn't.

After the race he could hardly stand up and was absolutely soaked in sweat!

Now the drivers are obviously fitter, but any amount of training regimes, can't prepare them for losing so much fluid during a race.

They only need to miss one braking point...
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P1,Apr 4 2014
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If you increased the minimum required weight with e.g. 50kg, there would still be some more heavier weight drivers that would complain.

Fair point, which is why the proposed solution of mandating a minimum combined weight for the driver and his seat is a sensible one.
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Red Andy,Apr 6 2014
04:31 PM
P1,Apr 4 2014
11:10 AM
If you increased the minimum required weight with e.g. 50kg, there would still be some more heavier weight drivers that would complain.

Fair point, which is why the proposed solution of mandating a minimum combined weight for the driver and his seat is a sensible one.

Agreed - But that is only if the ballast weight to balance all out is then also placed in same centre of gravity. (within the combined seat/driver location). And that is not the case in the proposal.
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I suspect Maldonado was driving without his water bottle in Bahrain
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