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F1 tide turning against Red Bull?; towards Ferrari and Mclaren
Topic Started: Jul 26 2011, 06:04 AM (393 Views)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/14275432.stm

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The tide is relentlessly turning against Red Bull in Formula 1 and they will want arrest that in no uncertain terms this weekend in Hungary.

The facts speak for themselves.

Red Bull have won one of the last four races. Ferrari's Fernando Alonso is the highest points scorer of the last three races. World championship leader Sebastian Vettel has not had a pole position or win in the past two races, and on Sunday finished off the podium for the first time in 13 races.


Was Silverstone the watershed moment where Red Bull may for the rest of the season have four drivers with a car able to beat them with equal or better machinery?

I hope so.
Not sure where Mclaren found their speed, but following from Ferrari forums, Ferrari have finally overcome the wind tunnel problems so can finally have more trust in their data from it.
With state of the art CFD and that massive simulator they had built in Maranello they have the capacity for unlimited testing in a virtual world. They have yet more updates for Hungray.
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When looking at this topic, the thought that came to my mind - more of a question actually - does anyone actually root for RBR?

We have Ferrari fans, McLaren fans, Mercedes and Williams fans and even fans of their drivers.

But are there any real Red Bull Fans? People who actually love Red Bull above all others? Germans and Austrians excluded
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That's a very good point!

There seem to be a growing number of red bull flags & fans in the stands over the years - particularly in Germany (Vettel's influence no doubt) but I don't think they have been around long enough for people to get really passionate about them.

Probably you could have said the same thing about Williams in the 1980s, and look at BLF now - cut him and he bleeds Williams coloured blood.

I wonder if Red bull will be around in 30 years time?
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I agree but would add that in the (temporary) absence of a Williams challenge I'm supporting Red Bull against the "auld enemies" ....

.. even despite that fact that two of my favourite drivers (Alonso & Button) have shown the poor taste to sign for them. I've always supported the team rather than the driver.
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Not sure there are any real RBR fans out there. I think there are more Vettel fans, some band wagon, some just respect his ability (as I do but own no Vettel swag).
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http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/07/27/red-...rovide-answers/

Are Red Bull in trouble? Hungary will give answers says F1Fanatic.

I don't know any RB fans, Christian Horner's derogatory comments on Mclaren and Ferrari have not shown him in an endearing light.

They could have done what Brawn GP did and have a massive amount of support from the F1 fans tired of the same teams at the top or just rooting for the little guy syndrome.

RB are not easy to like with Christian Horner in charge, in the same way, Jean Todt and Ron Dennis made it harder for general fans of F1 to like their teams during their era regardless of their success.
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Steelstallions,Jul 28 2011
04:50 AM

RB are not easy to like with Christian Horner in charge, in the same way, Jean Todt and Ron Dennis made it harder for general fans of F1 to like their teams during their era regardless of their success.


Agree completely on the Horner/Dennis thing, but at least jean Todt got Michelle Yeo.

Now that is another question - why, how, doesn't make sense, defies logic or understanding, mathematically improbable and yet there it was Jean Todt marries Michelle Yeo.

The little Frenchman who walks like a pidgeon, virtually no eyebrows or chin, gets a mega Asian movie star almost twice his height. She was a James Bond girl!!!

To this day I don't get it at all, unless he has one hell of a personality.
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Unless Michelle is not really a true woman, and started life out as Michael and needed a man who knew he was incapable of creating children anyway, or at least thought it would be cruel to create children in his own image, and.........
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Steelstallions,Jul 28 2011
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I don't know any RB fans, Christian Horner's derogatory comments on Mclaren and Ferrari have not shown him in an endearing light.

What have I missed? I like the guy more already.

Besides, I've never had any issue with him or the way he manages his team. I realise a lot of it is down to personal preference but I can't see any justification for lumping him alongside 'honest' Ron.
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Pasta,Jul 28 2011
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Unless Michelle is not really a true woman, and started life out as Michael

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Best looking Michael I know <roflmao>
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Clearly a ladyboy, why else would she disguise her adam's-apple like that?

Besides good looks are not a reliable indicator; some of the best looking women in Thailand are men.
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