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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 10 2011, 11:01 AM (2,044 Views) | |
| John | Jul 10 2011, 06:36 PM Post #151 |
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I would'nt go that far but his admission should burst a few bubbles. |
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| Steelstallions | Jul 10 2011, 06:46 PM Post #152 |
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Yes it's called a TEAM ORDER and the TEAM ORDER was made by RB as RB feared seeing their drivers collide or maybe even Webber beating Vettel. I would have given the same order, but then I am not Christian Horner, the man who derides Ferrari for having TEAM ORDER's and proudly shows his Halo for never ever ever giving TEAM ORDER's as in his words: -
A blatant Ferrari/Mclaren bashing hypocrite with Newey not far behind. |
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| John | Jul 10 2011, 06:56 PM Post #153 |
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world of difference whe we are talking last 3 laps and holding station will net 33 points and keep the team ahead in both championships and it's drivers 1-2 in the standings... As Horner said Mark was on pole and finished up 3rd and not because that was the teams intention from the start... has Webber signed a contract for 2012... |
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| Lord Tau | Jul 10 2011, 07:19 PM Post #154 |
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25 + 18 = 43, not 33, John.
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| TheCompleteGuitarist | Jul 10 2011, 07:47 PM Post #155 |
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errrr, 25 + 18 = 43 And believe it or not 18 + 25 = 43 would have worked the same both ways. No stations needed to have been held. |
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| Steelstallions | Jul 10 2011, 08:00 PM Post #156 |
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The only world of difference is that you now have Vettel tinted specs these days. Was the radio transmission we heard from Red Bull? Then it was a team order and that makes Horner an enormous hypocrite. He called off the race between his drivers for second place. I would have done the same but I have never disagreed with team orders, he made out his team was above team orders, today he again proved it isn't. No if's and no but's, no point saying other orders by other teams at other races were different. |
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| John | Jul 10 2011, 08:05 PM Post #157 |
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There is really is no point in talking with you at times.. I can add up thank you but just for the record it was a typo The point was NOT that the team would have had the same points haul regardless of which driver came 2nd and 3rd... (as you well know, but are being too obstreperous as usual to care) It was that those 43 points were in the bag... but without a win if the offing it was too much of a risk for the team to have it's drvers race that hard in the final laps... I know you to be too intellegent not to get this very simple permise... sadly I also know you to be too blinkered in you constant rantings with regards to Vettel and RBR. |
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| TheCompleteGuitarist | Jul 10 2011, 08:13 PM Post #158 |
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Not sure if any of those last comments were directed at me. IMO, Horner is a hypocrite, Webber is probably not going to maintain a place at RBR if he continues like that but I am glad he had a go. It's a bit refreshing at least. We've seen Lewis hunt down Button in the dying embers of the race too. I don't care about team orders, but I still have a right to judge Horner or at least the team on their integrity over this issue if I please. I was also surprised (or was I, I'm not sure) that the only team to benefit from the recent rule "tweaks" was Ferrari. Although Mclaren went backwards, they still easily beat the rest of the competition. |
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| Lord Tau | Jul 10 2011, 08:27 PM Post #159 |
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I know the order would not have mattered, due to the associative property of the addition function. I was simply correcting the mathematical typo in John's post. |
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| TheCompleteGuitarist | Jul 10 2011, 09:28 PM Post #160 |
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and i was implying that the points haul would have been the same regardless of which driver ended up infront of which driver |
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| TheCompleteGuitarist | Jul 11 2011, 01:36 PM Post #161 |
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Interesting article from James regarding the team orders. The whole article needs to be read and I don't think he is unduly biased, but objective. He says
I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation. It's like having Rubens pull over for a Michael and Massa pull over for Alonso when the win should be on merit. Of course both MS and FA are/were better than there team mates, but that is no reason to have position gifted to you. |
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| PiquetFan | Jul 11 2011, 04:09 PM Post #162 |
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Isn't it the COMMUTATIVE property of addition, LT? |
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| Lord Tau | Jul 11 2011, 05:02 PM Post #163 |
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I always get those two mixed up. I knew I'd get the wrong one! |
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| SaveOurSilverstone | Jul 12 2011, 07:30 PM Post #164 |
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Great weekend at Silverstone as usual, got very wet, very sunburnt and very drunk. loved every minute. The Wing is a work of art. Managed to get a spot at Vale/Club after a 5am start. Superb atmosphere.
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