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Lewis is not a happy bunny
Topic Started: May 29 2011, 04:11 PM (1,588 Views)
Nomad
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I would think that it was of sufficient seriousness that it merits further disciplinary review. That particular question "Is it because I'm Black," smears the sanctioning body and the officials with the suspicion of racial bias which is very difficult to clear away. I have seen individuals professional and personal lives damaged by this type of question, and racing officials professional credentials questioned by this sort of question being raised.

A "clarification" does not remove the cloud over the person/s accused. It is a bit like an accusation of rape of child molestation. It doesn't go away if the individual is proved to be innocent; there is always the suspicion of guilt in many peoples minds.

I think that it is incumbent on the FIA investigate further and if no basis can be proven by Lewis or the team, Lewis be strongly sanctioned for making false and unfounded accusations. Bringing the sport into disrepute seems as good as any section.
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I haven't read all the posts so apologies if I repeat something, but Lewis got penalty for hitting Massa in the hairpin. DiResta got the same penalty, Lewis needs to get the hell over it.

Yes Lewis the FIA are after you because you ate black, lucky for them you keep giving them reasons to penalize you. <doh>
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mrr9,May 29 2011
05:19 PM
Could he be charged for bring the sport into disrepute? ~ over what he said

or is he or the team on probation for some thing they did?

~ I be surprised if nothing come of this - best a warning from the FIA

Mark

They will make him the 2011 WDC, World Dipshit Champion.
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Lewis is allowing the frustration of not winning get the better of him. It began even before Monaco.

I read he'd accused a Torro Rosso (i think Jamie) of holding him up/ not getting out of the way fast enough to help Vettel build a gap.

Then he said Massa held him up to help Alonso during qualifying. He also said that Macca's poor strategy cost him a better position in Q3.

In the race, di Resta was given a drive through for exactly the same offence at the hairpin earlier. There was no way the Stewards could let Lewis off. Then he went and repeated it with Maldanado and screwed him out of getting his first points. For a repeat offence, almost exactly the same, in the same race, a 20 second penalty is pretty light.

The meltdown was underway, topped by saying what he did on live TV <doh>
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Rob,May 30 2011
05:49 AM
Yes Lewis the FIA are after you because you ate black

<blink>

<roflmao>
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I can never warm to Lewis and find his remarks just enforces the view he is my least favourite F1 driver.
My opinions means nothing in the world of motor sport, but when an F1 driver speaks, its going to get repeated world wide.

He knew exactly what would be reported when he used the race card, even if in a flippant way.
So, hard core motor sport fans who know a little about the sport will either dismiss or condemn his remark but the wider disinterested public will only see an headline "Is it because I am Black"and wonder why it was even said.

Is it because your father is black and your mother white?
No its because of what you say and what you do, but hey, thanks for tainting a motor sport body that deals as best it can with all nationalities and backgrounds.
I guess everyone has a gripe at one time or another with all walks of authority, but there is a line and he crossed it.
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Nomad,May 30 2011
12:41 AM
I would think that it was of sufficient seriousness that it merits further disciplinary review. That particular question "Is it because I'm Black," smears the sanctioning body and the officials with the suspicion of racial bias which is very difficult to clear away. I have seen individuals professional and personal lives damaged by this type of question, and racing officials professional credentials questioned by this sort of question being raised.

A "clarification" does not remove the cloud over the person/s accused. It is a bit like an accusation of rape of child molestation. It doesn't go away if the individual is proved to be innocent; there is always the suspicion of guilt in many peoples minds.

I think that it is incumbent on the FIA investigate further and if no basis can be proven by Lewis or the team, Lewis be strongly sanctioned for making false and unfounded accusations. Bringing the sport into disrepute seems as good as any section.

Spot on. Even though he phrased it as a question, it was intentionally made as an allegation.

One of the best things that could happen to Lewis is for him to get spanked. He is so opinionated and full of himself. And further feels it unnecessary for a person - even as young as he is - to learn anything from anyone.

He has gotten away with some pretty serious things so far. Very questionable driving at times, lying to the FIA on more than one occassion on some very very serious issues, shooting his mouth off. If he doesn't get a real heavy dose of consequence, he is not going to get any better.
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Pasta,May 30 2011
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Spot on. Even though he phrased it as a question, it was intentionally made as an allegation.


Do you think? I'm not so sure it was a genuine allegation and I don't honestly believe Lewis thinks he is discriminated against because of his colour. I think it was the remark of a petulant child who was throwing every toy he could think of out of the pram.

I don't know what he said in explanation -did he try to pass it off as a joke?

I hope he doesn't implode because I want to see him race. I would love it if he could stop Vettel cleaning up every weekend. But he finds it very hard to cope when things aren't going his way -remember how petulant & grumpy he was during the 2009 season?
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Steelstallions,May 30 2011
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He knew exactly what would be reported when he used the race card, even if in a flippant way.

No! He said it because he couldn't help it! It's human nature to act, especially to say things that you harbour emotionally but objectively know might be innappropriate when you feel passionate about something.

He's a little hot headed on and off the track but he's still a good person. I think the worst thing for Lewis here is that the Press will give him a difficult time over this issue if only to continue to hound him as to wether he really feels discriminated against.

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Many a true feeling is shoken in jest...

He has a natural talant for racing, he is in an elite group, others have to work very hard at their sucess but Lewis like Clark and Senna just can't help but drive a car fast... and that is what I like about him, but he has always had a chip on his shoulder and when he has tuff days at the office (like yesterday) then it shows.

I don't even consider him as being Black, he is as much white as he is Black but he has made plenty of money (sponsership wise) by being the 'first black F1 driver' yet he wants to play the race card.... not wise.
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Lewis is an arse. Always has been.

Little that he says surprises me any more, but this comment is quite disgusting.

It's about time he grew up a bit and accepted the responsibility for his actions.

He needs to accept the basic premise that if he takes an aggressive, high risk strategy to his racing then he will end up involved in more incidents than more considered drivers (such as his team mate) would do.

Blaming all those around him for his own failures is childish and petulant. But then ... it's not as if we've never had cause to say that about Lewis before.
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spottygiraffe,May 30 2011
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Pasta,May 30 2011
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Spot on.  Even though he phrased it as a question, it was intentionally made as an allegation.


Do you think? I'm not so sure it was a genuine allegation and I don't honestly believe Lewis thinks he is discriminated against because of his colour. I think it was the remark of a petulant child who was throwing every toy he could think of out of the pram.

It doesn't matter the reason he said it. Forgetting that he is paid a lot of money and has a responsibility as a representative of the sport and his team, it was a mean spriited thing to say. If all he is required to do is apologize again and again then he will never learn.

The sad thing is possibly the fastest driver on the grid, his talents are being overshadowed.
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Lewis provides a lot of entertainment, both on the track and outside it.

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When Lewis isn't punting Williams' cars off the track then I enjoy his on-track antics tremendously.

Sadly virtually every time he opens his mouth I am reminded of why I have so little respect for him.
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TheCompleteGuitarist,May 30 2011
11:51 AM
Steelstallions,May 30 2011
10:40 AM
He knew exactly what would be reported when he used the race card, even if in a flippant way.

No! He said it because he couldn't help it! It's human nature to act, especially to say things that you harbour emotionally but objectively know might be innappropriate when you feel passionate about something.

He's a little hot headed on and off the track but he's still a good person. I think the worst thing for Lewis here is that the Press will give him a difficult time over this issue if only to continue to hound him as to wether he really feels discriminated against.

Human nature? that's OK then. <sarcasm>

Maybe next time he 'harbours emotion' against Mclaren, he could laugh and hint that Brüno Gehard would say Ron Dennis was a paedophile who groomed him for F1.

Bet Ron will forgive that one ASAP. :P

NB: Now I have said that about Ron "I'll just try and keep my mouth shut and try to enjoy the rest of the season,"
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