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2010 Ferrari has fallen short of expectations
Topic Started: Jan 17 2010, 11:37 AM (816 Views)
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German press New 2010 Ferrari lacks aerodynamic efficiency http://tinyurl.com/y95v9mp

"Ferrari’s new single-seater, predicted to be named the F2010, and set to compete in the 2010 Formula 1 championship will officially debut later this month on January 28 in Maranello.

However, some are suspecting that it’s quest for the championship along with Ferrari drivers Felipe Massa and already two time world champion Fernado Alonso may be over before they begin.

The car has yet to see pavement, but an article in German publication Motorsport Aktuell written by none other than regular and respected contributor to the Italian magazine ‘Autosprint’; Alberto Antonini has claimed that the new Ferrari design lacks aerodynamic efficiency and has come short of achieving set design goals. The author writes that a B-spec version of the car is in the works at Maranello set to be introduced in June, near round eight of the championship.The news is hard to digest given that Ferrari has started work on the 2010 challenger mid 2009 season and is expected to be a force to be reckoned with.

If the rumors are true, (and at this point this cannot be attributed to anything else but rumors) and Ferrari do plan to introduce a “b” version in June, then the season might as well be written off as it’s unlikely Ferrari would be able to compete with it’s rivals if the “a” version is not up to par.

Ferrari’s standard procedure for the past few years has been to introduce a few significant upgrades to the release version of the car by the start of the European season a few round in. This news brings up some serious questions especially given that all official word from Mranello has been positive."


This could just be the German press fed up of writing about Schumacher as I imagine the Italian press would have seized on this first. If true though, Stefano will be looking for a new job.

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sounds like games to me
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Steelstallions,Jan 17 2010
01:37 PM
This could just be the German press fed up of writing about Schumacher as I imagine the Italian press would have seized on this first. If true though, Stefano will be looking for a new job.

Brazilian press wrote a story on this 4 days ago, referring to the Italian La Gazzetta dello Sport:
Ferrari com problemas aerodinâmicos no carro de 2010
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P-One,Jan 17 2010
09:22 PM
Steelstallions,Jan 17 2010
01:37 PM
This could just be the German press fed up of writing about Schumacher as I imagine the Italian press would have seized on this first. If true though, Stefano will be looking for a new job.

Brazilian press wrote a story on this 4 days ago, referring to the Italian La Gazzetta dello Sport:
Ferrari com problemas aerodinâmicos no carro de 2010

With bablefish it only states that the Italian press printed details of their interpretation of the car which is usually quite accurate and then at the same time the German press printed the above

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Vocês capsizes this way in the last end of week that the Italian jornalão, the Gazzetta of lo Sport, published one preview of the new car of the Ferrari, showing as it shaped it to the team around the redimensionamento of the fuel tank. But another prestigious publication specialized in Motoring, the Motor German Sport Aktuel, simultaneously published with the Gazzeta an article that.................


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Also, the Spanish media report that the Ferrari engine uses an average 10 litres more of fuel than Mercedes and Renault, that is about .3 sec. per lap.
Another issue for Ferrari?

http://www.marca.com/2010/01/17/motor/form...1263749267.html
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Iberiafromoz,Jan 17 2010
11:12 PM
Another issue for Ferrari?

Another issue for Alonso?

<think>
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Iberiafromoz,Jan 17 2010
11:12 PM
Also, the Spanish media report that the Ferrari engine uses an average 10 litres more of fuel than Mercedes and Renault, that is about .3 sec. per lap.
Another issue for Ferrari?

http://www.marca.com/2010/01/17/motor/form...1263749267.html

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In addition commonly it is accepted in the F1 that the Mercedes motor consumes less near 10 liters. Not even it denied it to Domenicali yesterday. And it is the propellent that will dress so much to escudería McLaren as to Mercedes, that is to say, Hamilton and Schumacher. Before to consume more or less did not concern so much, but now that it is not possible to be refuelled


With bablefish it appears they are talking about 2009 stats and that Domencelli has had to work with Shell to address the problem (I have another thread about this and so far the official line is they are happy with progress as its not affected performance).

What i did pick up though was the new rule demands more of the driver to conserve fuel and this will be a factor for all teams. Sounds more like asking a 100 metre champion runner expected to run a race like a marathon champion runner who has to conserve energy and use it wisely to finish the distance.
Next year is going to be hard for drivers who thought nothing of fuel whilst they punished the car round a track.
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flood1,Jan 18 2010
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That's interesting Flood, but it states Mercedes not Mclaren.

Ferrari and Mclaren were the only team with Kers for most of the season. A good stat to see is a direct comparison between Mclaren who had a Mercedes engine and Ferrari to know the real difference.
Even the translated article speaks of the difference not having Kers has and that they employed a new head of that department who has more experience of engine performance without Kers.

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Ask and ye shall recieve. This is stuff I should have saved for elsewhere!
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John,Jan 17 2010
11:22 PM
Iberiafromoz,Jan 17 2010
11:12 PM
Another issue for Ferrari?

Another issue for Alonso?

<think>

So you mean, Massa is not getting affected...or just having a go at me. ;)
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flood1,Jan 18 2010
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Ask and ye shall recieve. This is stuff I should have saved for elsewhere!

Good stats flood. My question is, do all teams uses the same fuel that is under identical specification? Is that due to the engine only or some of both?
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The teams are required to submit a sample of the fuel they intend to use. The FIA specifications are exact in terms of the components and % of the components. However, these guidelines offer some room to innovate.

The "footprint" of the fuel is provided by Gas Chromatography/Mass Spectrophotometry. At each race samples are taken to prove that the fuel matches those samples submitted for approval (pre-season approval).

Beyond the science details, your real question is, "do all of the teams use the same fuel." The answer is no.

The differences are not known, but each team has has their own recipe. The FIA intends their regs to mandate fuel that has equal properties, but there is no evidence to prove that is in fact true.
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The more horsepower an engine has the more fuel it uses. may explain why Renault is so fuel efficient........................
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One other thing, P-One has posted all of these charts on TPL on another thread before I posted these here. I hadn't seen that post when I did these, so credit is due to him as well. We both cited the same source.

http://the-pit-lane.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=15062&hl=
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