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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 17 2009, 03:05 PM (300 Views) | |
| ELUSIVEJIM | Aug 17 2009, 03:05 PM Post #1 |
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http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/arti...orano/view.html Any upset by this news or is it ok because its not M Schumacher??
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| Rob | Aug 17 2009, 03:10 PM Post #2 |
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Not sure how productive it will be....
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| AndyW76 | Aug 17 2009, 03:18 PM Post #3 |
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Well, it's 100km more than anyone else, productive or not. Still, if it is with the agreement of all the teams, then I see no issue. |
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| John | Aug 17 2009, 03:28 PM Post #4 |
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Is it restricted to 100km distance, I've seen other reports that say it's restricted to 100km/h top speed...? |
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| Red Andy | Aug 17 2009, 03:33 PM Post #5 |
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This is totally within the rules and any other team could do it if they wanted to. They can't run more than 100km and the tyres used are totally different to the ones used in GPs, so there is little that can be gained except basic familiarisation with the cockpit - which can be done just as easily in a simulator anyway. Totally different to asking for an exemption from the rules like Ferrari were doing before. |
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| AndyW76 | Aug 17 2009, 03:43 PM Post #6 |
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Which makes me wonder why they didn't try to get Badoer a full test like they tried with Schumi. Is it because Badoer doesn't have schumi's clout or is it because Ferrari have already been burnt by certain teams' protests earlier. Either way, Luca will be rather green at Valencia. |
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| Red Andy | Aug 17 2009, 03:51 PM Post #7 |
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I would imagine that the promo was coming up anyway and Badoer will be used because any experience in the F60 will be good for him. Quite simply, giving Badoer a full test is against the rules (Williams and Red Bull would likely have objected to any exemption as they did before), but letting him take part in a promo isn't. I do wonder why the regulations don't say that you can't use a current car for in-season promotional work .... but as things stand this is perfectly legal. |
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| AndyW76 | Aug 17 2009, 04:03 PM Post #8 |
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To be honest, the in season testing ban make no sense. All it does is push teams back to the simulators and expensive computer testing. To me, FOM and the FIA have missed a trick. They could organise a certain number of "official" tests at various GP circuits and use them as marketing and promotional oportunities for F1. Also, I feel that the teams should be allowed a certain amount of testing at non-GP tracks so the team don't turn up at GPs with the cars already set up. |
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| RJHSaints | Aug 17 2009, 04:12 PM Post #9 |
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Why, has he been eating too many Ferrari motorhome oysters recently? The term 'green' describes the track after a shower where the cars have not run on it for a while, e.g. on Friday morning before first practice. With all the various washed up stuff the track is said to have a green tint, hence it is 'green'. I don't think it can be applied to drivers, myself. Then again, calling a sportsman 'rusty' probably conjured up some interesting images the first few times it was used.
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| ELUSIVEJIM | Aug 17 2009, 05:19 PM Post #10 |
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You would think the rules would be easy to follow but this is the FIA |
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| ELUSIVEJIM | Aug 17 2009, 05:20 PM Post #11 |
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| Alien_SAP_Fiend | Aug 18 2009, 08:27 AM Post #12 |
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Just extend the ban to simulators, computers, wind tunnels.... Anybody else feel that with a few more miles on the test track, the part that came off the Brawn and nearly ended Massa's life might have done so during testing and not quali? |
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| Red Andy | Aug 18 2009, 08:42 AM Post #13 |
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No. It was the component itself which was faulty, not its attachment to the car. Using Massa's accident as a political tool to try and argue against the testing ban is frankly disgraceful. It was a freak accident, no more. And for all the frustration the in-season testing ban causes, it's undeniable that it saves costs by reducing all the expense of travelling to testing venues. I stand by my statement that more testing should be allowed on GP weekends (perhaps with third cars allowed for driver orientation), but fully support the in-season test ban. |
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| AndyW76 | Aug 18 2009, 09:22 AM Post #14 |
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Travel to testing venues would be greatly reduced if the teams were allowed to test at non-GP tracks. I remember the days when F1 teams were allowed to test at Snetterton and Thruxton. It did no harm then. All it was was a day in the transporter as opposed to freight flights. |
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| Alien_SAP_Fiend | Aug 18 2009, 09:44 AM Post #15 |
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Yes... and if the component had been tested attached to the car, the chances of it failing during testing rather than during quali would have been greater. Fact. Cars that are more thoroughly tested are safer because they are more likely to fall apart on the test track than on a race track. Is it a pure co-incidence that the car with the least test track miles was the one that lost a 500 gram spring during quali? Yes, it was a freak accident (and I'm hardly "using Massa's accident as a political tool to try and argue against the testing ban" ) but the point is that part failures are more likely to happen during testing simply due to the law of averages. Yet another unintended consequence of knee-jerk FIA decisions. |
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