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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 11 2009, 08:01 AM (1,762 Views) | |
| stradlin24 | Aug 11 2009, 02:13 PM Post #61 |
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Agreed, Schumacher is a proven cheat and crucially, an ON TRACK cheat who is willing to put at risk the safety of others as well But his ‘fans’ still can’t accept that and all they want to talk about if his successes and go on as if his shameful tactics never happened (because in their mind they never did) Plus, McLaren were punished for what they did, Schumacher was not |
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| PiquetFan | Aug 11 2009, 02:16 PM Post #62 |
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I haven't seen many, if any, posts on here that assert that Hamilton is not an incredibly talented driver. Are you sure that this statement has any basis? One of the incidents that Lewis was criticised for was running into the back of Kimi at a red light. There were several apologists around ready to defend him at the time, and also those that were critical of the young man. I believe that on balance the incident was treated fairly by the board as a whole. |
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| PiquetFan | Aug 11 2009, 02:24 PM Post #63 |
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Surely Schumacher was punished for both Jerez and Monaco? You may say that the punishment amounted to a slap on the wrist in both cases, but there are others who would say that Macca's punishment for Spygate was also derisory, considering the evidence that came to light. Macca apologists and Schumi apologists should probably both acknowledge that there is a high degree of symmetry in the arguments they present to attack the 'other side'. Or am I completely daft? |
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| Norbert | Aug 11 2009, 02:25 PM Post #64 |
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I don't believe I've ever called him hopeless or a no-talent. He is neither. However, like Schumacher he is a proven cheat (and like Ferrari, so are McLaren), but some people cannot accpet this and choose to call out people who choose to remind them. The fact is that both drivers and their respctive teams have done wrong in the past, but some people choose only to remember some of the facts. |
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| Norbert | Aug 11 2009, 02:26 PM Post #65 |
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No, you're absolutely spot on. However, some people seem to think that Lewis and McLaren can be excused for cheating, on the track and off it, because they are British, and Ferrari and Schumacher are not. |
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| Norbert | Aug 11 2009, 02:28 PM Post #66 |
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I refer you to Melbourne this year. I believe that was cheating, and that it happened on the track. Also, to the Nurburgring where Hamilton was lifted out of the gravel trap and placed back on the track, in direct contravention of the rules regarding cars that have become immobile. |
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| stradlin24 | Aug 11 2009, 02:31 PM Post #67 |
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Michael Schumacher was not punished for Jerez at all. FACT |
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| stradlin24 | Aug 11 2009, 02:32 PM Post #68 |
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Didn’t Michael Schumacher also re-join the track after outside assistance once?? Oh I believe he did! But that doesn’t matter because it’s Michael Schumacher |
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| Norbert | Aug 11 2009, 02:34 PM Post #69 |
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Fiction. |
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| Norbert | Aug 11 2009, 02:35 PM Post #70 |
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When? |
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| PiquetFan | Aug 11 2009, 02:35 PM Post #71 |
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I disagree with you. Your statement is not a fact. A punishment was meted out, but it fell far short of what you believe his actions merited. There is a difference. |
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| Norbert | Aug 11 2009, 02:36 PM Post #72 |
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A bit like Spygate and Liegate not being punishments.
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| stradlin24 | Aug 11 2009, 02:41 PM Post #73 |
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I can’t remember which race it was but he pushed back onto the track by marshals after spinning off and carried on I’m not motivated enough to google it but it 100% happened |
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| stradlin24 | Aug 11 2009, 02:43 PM Post #74 |
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But it wasn’t a punishment was it? He kept his records and his wins and he was free to race the first race in 1998 with NO restrictions Please inform me of the details of this punishment… The fact remains, there was no punishment! |
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| Norbert | Aug 11 2009, 02:46 PM Post #75 |
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I'm only asking because I don't remember it, but seem to have a vague recollection that it may be true. It's a little difficult to remember exactly what happened in each of the 300 or so GPs I've watched. Hamilton is definitely the only driver I've ever seen craned back on though! |
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