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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 31 2009, 08:36 PM (2,102 Views) | |
| sportsman | Aug 2 2009, 12:40 PM Post #31 |
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Mercedes motorsport boss Norbert Haug says his company would be happy to allow Michael Schumacher to test the 2009 Ferrari before his comeback in the European Grand Prix, and hopes rival teams take the same stance. Ferrari has requested that an exemption to the testing ban be made to help Schumacher reacclimatise before he deputises for the injured Felipe Massa in Valencia. The former world champion last raced in Formula 1 in 2006, and last tested a contemporary car in April 2008, although he drove a 2007 F1 Ferrari fitted with GP2 tyres at Mugello on Friday. Haug said he could see no reason why Ferrari's request should be rejected. "Whatever we can do to support him we will do," Haug told AUTOSPORT. "I just think it is fair. This is an exception. If Michael had said he would come back under the condition that he could test, everybody would have said yes. "His team-mate has thousands of kilometres in this car, and he has nothing. As we are fair players, why should he not get some testing? I would be very open to that. Toro Rosso's new driver Jaime Alguersuari had to make his F1 debut in Hungary with minimal preparation due to the testing ban, but Haug thinks the young Spaniard would also have been granted an exemption if his team had asked. "Maybe even a newcomer should get a test," said Haug. "If I would be asked to make an exception for a young guy, I would say yes. "Giving Jaime a test would have been justifiable, but having said that I don't think there was an official request." http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77518 |
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| stradlin24 | Aug 2 2009, 12:52 PM Post #32 |
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It's all very well saying if you don't ask then you don't get but you can't get without approval The example I used earlier. If McLaren put Mika Hakkinen in a car and requested a days testing for him, do you think Ferrari would agree to that? I strongley believe they wouldn't. And the same goes for JA at Torro Rosso Whatever the case and whoever agreed is beside the point. How ever it has happened, the goal posts have been moved for Michael Schumacher again, the goal posts have been moved to accomodate Michael Schumacher A man that has won seven, sorry six world titles. It all seems very odd to me. I smell bad fish |
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| Norbert | Aug 2 2009, 05:29 PM Post #33 |
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I smell sour grapes. However, I agree (and suggested before Ferrari's request) that any driver not having driven this year due to the testing ban should be allowed a day's testing to acclimatise to a contemporary F1 car. Oh, and by the way Strad, Hakkinen was allowed to do a test a few years back for McLaren and he was a couple of seconds off of the pace, so he'd probably be a little slower now. However, that was before the testing ban as we know it. Weren't the FIA supposed to be organising a few official tests during the season specifically aimed at giving other drivers a chance to play catchup? |
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| stradlin24 | Aug 2 2009, 06:25 PM Post #34 |
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When anyone says anything that Schumi fans don't like about Scumi then why is it always sour grapes? That needs to be explained. It's almost as people people think his past actions were fine and have just accepted them. Alot of us haven't accepted them simply because we do not tolerate cheating. Would you tolerate your wife/girlfriend cheating? Would that just be brushed under the carpet? It seems really strange that the goal posts have been changed again to aid michael schumacher. The blind lovefest will go no doubt as his fans live in denial about his character but those of us that don't worship him can see MS for what he really is Norbert, when the best footballer in the world left Man Utd to go to real madrid, you didn't describe him as that. you described like this.........http://the-pit-lane.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=13878&hl= Why? Because Cristiano Ronaldo is a cheat, he's cheated and got away with it like Schumacher has. He's done it in a remorseless and arrogant way, like schumacher has. And many of us see scummi as a big baby as well because if he doesn't get want he wants or he runs of talent he decides to cheat, he is not the best driver F1 has ever seen imo, not even close. Formula 1 has taken a major step backwards |
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| Norbert | Aug 2 2009, 06:56 PM Post #35 |
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Precisely the same can be said of the fantasy that McLaren somehow were not guilty of Spygate, and Lewis and McLaren were not guilty of Liegate, both crimes for which they were accused, found guilty and punished for. Yet no, they can be forgotten because McLaren aren't Ferrari and Hamilton isn't Shumacher. I do not condone MS's action in Jerez in 1997. Nor the infamous 'parking' incident. Both actions were cited, reviewed, guilt decided, and punishment was handed out. This was deemed acceptable punishment at the time by everyone. I do not condone McLaren's obvious systematic spying on Ferrari, nor their posession of details of Renault's cooling systems. Nor their lying to the FIA about it. Nor do I condone their position during Liegate, where they lied to the FIA on two occasions about what they had told Lewis to do despite the FIA holding audio evidence (ie their radio transmissions to him) from the incident. Guilt was beyond all doubt (apart from people wearing silver clothes) in both instances, and punishment was handed out. However, it appears that this can be forgotten, or McLaren weren't really guilty and shouldn't have been punished. This needs to be explained too. Personally, I think all four of the offences above were cases of guilty as charged. However, I'm not a McLaren/Lewis fan, therefore that makes me unable to see the 'truth'. Btw, seeing as you have decided on the name Scumi, may I refer to McLyin'?
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| stradlin24 | Aug 2 2009, 07:10 PM Post #36 |
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Why do you keep going back to stuff McLaren has done when anyone mentions Schumacher? Why don't you address things that Schumacher has done first? You are trying to justify Schumacher's actions by going on about what McLaren have done? You've written a huge post about McLaren (Mclyin) but side tracked on Scummi. Why? Something to hide? Insercurity? Punishments? What punishments? McLaren were harshley punished both times for what they did. But honestly, was Michael Schumacher actually punished for Jerez 97 in which he attempted change the course of a world title by cheating? He wasn't punished at all was he. He had his 2nd place taken away from him but so what, he would have lost anyway and was free to come back the following year and do it all again. He was not punished for Jerez 97 in the slightest and I find that to be wholly unacceptable and disgraceful. I don't believe in a god at all but if something told me Silvestone 99 was poetic justice for his previous actions i'd have to consider that view Michael Schumacher has got away with murder and not only in 97, I worry it may happen again. As we have seen with Massa, an F1 driver is risking his life every time he steps in an F1 car, what gives Michael Schumacher the right to increase that risk by intentionally driving into people. I cannot accept that he is a decent human being because he is not. I'm sorry but that's my view. |
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| ELUSIVEJIM | Aug 2 2009, 09:36 PM Post #37 |
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THE STIG
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| Steelstallions | Aug 2 2009, 10:49 PM Post #38 |
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I fear this thread is going to be the first of many that will degenerate to nonsense before this season ends, the question is, will there be anybody left on these boards to post anything else? Maybe that's the future of TPL. |
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| TheCompleteGuitarist | Aug 2 2009, 10:54 PM Post #39 |
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If MS were to test a 2009 car with current slicks, then I think it would be wrong, but if it's just a case of MS getting himself race ready by driving an F1 car, I wouldn't see a problem with him testing in a superfluous model. I am sure J Alguesuari had similar options if they had but thought of them. I'm sure the in season testing ban is designed to reduce the development race and to cut down on the costs associated with putting the day together. But a private training session in an outmoded vehicle at a non race track ought not to be a problem for anyone. Otherwise you might as well say F1 drivers are only allowed to drive anything on a race weekend. In which case they'd need to get their mum's to take them out shopping all the time. |
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| John | Aug 3 2009, 07:55 AM Post #40 |
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Thankfully most posters on the forum can spot the usual dire des conneries as it comes from the usual source... and most will ignore it accordingly |
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| sportsman | Aug 3 2009, 12:15 PM Post #41 |
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The man from Williams "he say no" The Williams team has opposed Ferrari's request to allow Michael Schumacher to test ahead of his return to Formula 1 at the European Grand Prix, AUTOSPORT can reveal. Ferrari had asked all current teams, as well as the FIA, to allow Schumacher to have a one-day test with this year's F60 car to familiarise himself with the machine. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77534 |
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| John | Aug 3 2009, 12:25 PM Post #42 |
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Frank is only thinking of his team (and rightly so), it is a reflection of the threat to his teams point scoring ability that he has veto'd the test... [size0] ...the fact it makes him a cock is immaterial as that was a character trait of his long before this. |
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| sportsman | Aug 3 2009, 12:30 PM Post #43 |
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Areed. Every WCC point that Schumacher takes away from Williams, hits them in the pocket. And even without a test Schumacher is quite capable of doing that. |
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| John | Aug 3 2009, 12:35 PM Post #44 |
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And may Schumacher prove him correct
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| stradlin24 | Aug 3 2009, 12:45 PM Post #45 |
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You can understand Williams point of view though schumacher's tactics robbed his team of drivers championship in 94 and very nearly again in 97 I suspect this is Frank's way of having a little dig back |
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