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What will Shumi do?; predictions?
Topic Started: Jul 31 2009, 04:13 AM (836 Views)
Red Andy
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stradlin24,Jul 31 2009
11:18 PM
I think it was EJ that said "everyone will be pleased to see him back"

i'm sorry but that's not the case. i'm quite saddened that he's back to honest

I have no time at all for cheats and Scumacher is a consistent cheat who has also put other drivers lives at risk by making cheating moves, that is unnacceptable

it would be like Cristiano Ronaldo returning to the EPL, world class player that he is, he is also a serial cheat and the EPL is better off without his type and the same goes for scumacher

at a time when the FIA are under huge scrutiny the last thing the sport needs is the biggest cheat in it's history to return and get up to his old tricks again, this is dangerous for f1

statistically the most successful driver ever but the best? no way, not even close....wouldn't get in my top 5 to be honest

my big concern is that at a time when the series needs stability we could see another wave of shabby scummi tactics that influence the next generation of races, i fear that greatly

together with the Massa incident, this is a sad sad time for F1

I think that's a harsh assessment to be honest. Schumacher was a cheat, that's indisputable, but it's also fair to say that when he did cheat he was more or less always punished (1994 is the most obvious exception, but whether that was deliberate or accidental will never be settled).

I too am disappointed to see MS return, but for me it's because I believe his achievements this time around will be a massive disappointment compared to what we are used to seeing. This is a guy who, at his prime, drove marginally competitive Ferraris to within an ace of the championship (e.g. 1997 and 1998). Yet by 2006, his last year in F1, he was being beaten by a driver in an inferior car. As far as I'm concerned that would never have happened when Schumi was in his prime.

Nowadays Schumacher is the wrong side of 40, likely without his renowned levels of fitness, and recovering from a fairly serious injury himself. I simply don't see how he will fulfil the expectation that will be laid upon him.

As ever, of course, I am happy to be proven wrong. But I think Schumi will struggle this time, if he beats Raikkonen it will be an achievement for him.
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I never wanted to comment on Shumaker returned because I really feel sick about it. I never rated the guy knowing his attitude on track, Ross Brawn quality and dodgy contract, but it's only my opinion off course.

Not giving a drive to Badoer, Gene and burrying Massa before dying is simply sickening and a lack of respect for these guys. This is all a PR stunt generated by Bernie and Co to Ensure with the absence of Renault that Valencia (the most boring track) can still make hips of $$ full stop.

I really hope Massa get well quick and race in Valencia an those behind this stop taking the fans for a ride.

I know, Iam waiting for some hammering now.
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I don't think the Shumi drive is just a publicity stunt, although jusging by the increase in trffic on this site alone I can see how one might come to that conclusion. But it is not easy to come up with a name that would be better qualified.

Anyway there are very few that don't rate Shumi as one of the top drivers of all time, he's even a fairly well known name over here. I think he's still got something left in the tank as far as speed goes. Some may recall that Kubica hosted some carting fetival, recently, and the fastest of all? Shumi. I think he'll do ok, but I agree he won't be his old self.
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Iberiafromoz,Aug 1 2009
01:39 AM
I never wanted to comment on Shumaker returned because I really feel sick about it. I never rated the guy knowing his attitude on track, Ross Brawn quality and dodgy contract, but it's only my opinion off course.

Not giving a drive to Badoer, Gene and burrying Massa before dying is simply sickening and a lack of respect for these guys. This is all a PR stunt generated by Bernie and Co to Ensure with the absence of Renault that Valencia (the most boring track) can still make hips of $$ full stop.

I really hope Massa get well quick and race in Valencia an those behind this stop taking the fans for a ride.

I know, Iam waiting for some hammering now.

not at all, it's good that others have the guts to speak out their opinions on Schumi because the lovefest on here was making me sick as well

like I said on another thread just now, i feel f1 has taken a major step backwards and it saddens me
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Isn't it funny how all the criticism of anyone/else to do with F1 is suddenly forgotten when there's an easier target to bash?

What has happened to the debates about Renault being banned?
What about the not-quite-finished 2010 season business?
What about Max's hints that he might possibly still stand for FIA pres again?
What about Massa's injury, recovery, and chances of driving again?

Nope, let's return to the old favourite of slagging off a driver who had probably three controversial incidents among almost 250 races, seven championships and holds more records than mmost drivers have had wins.

Speaking of records, I can here some more broken ones rattling around as I type....
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Norbert,Aug 1 2009
12:36 PM
Isn't it funny how all the criticism of anyone/else to do with F1 is suddenly forgotten when there's an easier target to bash?

What has happened to the debates about Renault being banned?
What about the not-quite-finished 2010 season business?
What about Max's hints that he might possibly still stand for FIA pres again?
What about Massa's injury, recovery, and chances of driving again?

Nope, let's return to the old favourite of slagging off a driver who had probably three controversial incidents among almost 250 races, seven championships and holds more records than mmost drivers have had wins.

Speaking of records, I can here some more broken ones rattling around as I type....

Erm, so what about the lovefest Schumi is receiving from many on here, including you?

It's ok to declare your love for him but not to bring up his immense failings as a person and awful tactics?

Gimme a break mate. that's bollocks and you know it is
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Norbert,Aug 1 2009
12:36 PM
Isn't it funny how all the criticism of anyone/else to do with F1 is suddenly forgotten when there's an easier target to bash?

What has happened to the debates about Renault being banned?
What about the not-quite-finished 2010 season business?
What about Max's hints that he might possibly still stand for FIA pres again?
What about Massa's injury, recovery, and chances of driving again?

Nope, let's return to the old favourite of slagging off a driver who had probably three controversial incidents among almost 250 races, seven championships and holds more records than mmost drivers have had wins.

Speaking of records, I can here some more broken ones rattling around as I type....

No one is bashing anyone, everyone is having their own opinion and all the subjects you have listed has also being discussed in other threads.

BTW you should know there is far more than 3 incidents, I am too lazy to do some research and type them, but someone has done that in 606 (Schumaker tainted legacy part 1, 2 and 3) I wouldn't agree on a couple of them though. I never deny the high quality of Schumaker as a driver, but his attitude on track. Cheers mate.


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stradlin24,Aug 1 2009
02:06 PM
Erm, so what about the lovefest Schumi is receiving from many on here, including you?

It's ok to declare your love for him but not to bring up his immense failings as a person and awful tactics?

Gimme a break mate. that's bollocks and you know it is

Or the hatefest?

<think>

Btw, even though you've decided to sum my post up as 'bollocks', I'm not going to get my missus to complain about it to the mods.

<thumbsup>



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Norbert,Aug 1 2009
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stradlin24,Aug 1 2009
02:06 PM
Erm, so what about the lovefest Schumi is receiving from many on here, including you?

It's ok to declare your love for him but not to bring up his immense failings as a person and awful tactics?

Gimme a break mate. that's bollocks and you know it is

Or the hatefest?

<think>

Btw, even though you've decided to sum my post up as 'bollocks', I'm not going to get my missus to complain about it to the mods.

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oh thats very big of you

i don't get her to do anything actually

and on that point, i called your post bollocks, i didn't attack you, unlike the previously mentioned complained of post which was a clear attack on me

but there we go. lets not let facts get in the way of things
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stradlin24,Aug 1 2009
03:50 PM
Norbert,Aug 1 2009
01:41 PM
stradlin24,Aug 1 2009
02:06 PM
Erm, so what about the lovefest Schumi is receiving from many on here, including you?

It's ok to declare your love for him but not to bring up his immense failings as a person and awful tactics?

Gimme a break mate. that's bollocks and you know it is

Or the hatefest?

<think>

Btw, even though you've decided to sum my post up as 'bollocks', I'm not going to get my missus to complain about it to the mods.

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oh thats very big of you

i don't get her to do anything actually

and on that point, i called your post bollocks, i didn't attack you, unlike the previously mentioned complained of post which was a clear attack on me

but there we go. lets not let facts get in the way of things

Please take this to PM guys <please>
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Well its good to have so many different view but lets not get too personal.

We all have people in sport that we do not like for a reason.

Thing is we all know the fans of M Schumacher will be cheering and also the haters of M Schumacher will be cheering while watching the Spanish Gp but it will be for different reasons <roflmao>

Lets agree to disagree but you all must admit that M Schumacher inspires passionate posts from alot of us which is a good thing and also when it comes to life you need a hero and a villian in all good stories <thumbsup>
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Lex
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I think the issue is here that the same person is both hero and villain so ne'rethe twain shall meet
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Lex,Aug 1 2009
04:10 PM
I think the issue is here that the same person is both hero and villain so ne'rethe twain shall meet

I've said that many of times. Shumi is a great anti-hero. Good villians have to be great at what they do, other wise what's the point?
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so if he's both he can't be good at either <devil>

I guess he'd best stick to the driving <thumbsup>
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he is great at both, just as people from different sides of the fence. Granted I'm not saying he should take to wearing tights and a cape or growing a hendle bar stache,
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