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| Max Backs Down; sort of... | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 18 2009, 01:09 PM (191 Views) | |
| Alien_SAP_Fiend | Jun 18 2009, 01:09 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76269
So, what will happen to the teams who thought they'd be racing on 40 million in 2010? They gotta wait another year? I wonder how many teams you could run on the total amount of legal fees incurred by this incessant wrangling all season thanks to the incompetence of the FIA and Max in particular.
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| TheCompleteGuitarist | Jun 18 2009, 01:23 PM Post #2 |
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I doubt the budget cap includes legal fees. Maybe we'll see a lot more races won off the track than on it.
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| GordonB | Jun 18 2009, 02:23 PM Post #3 |
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This is along the lines of what I expected - €40 million was clearly too low for the established front runners - and it's surprising that Max has opted for €45m in 2011. Yes it's hard on the new entrants, but what were they really expecting? that they're going to win in the first year? It's a lot more competitive if the cost cap is €100m and they can only afford €40m compared to the current situation. Also, as Max said in his letter, this €100m is for technical development and actual racing: It doesn't include marketing, driver salaries etc. IMHO Max is buggering about with this cost cap headline number when what he should be doing is addressing the problem of, say, McLaren Mercedes doing 33% of their development work under the McLaren badge, 33% under Force India and 33% under Brawn, or (more likely) how to deal with the two Red Bull teams. |
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| AndyW76 | Jun 18 2009, 03:58 PM Post #4 |
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I thought Max championed information sharing between teams. After all, it does offer stability to the smaller teams and allows them to be more competitive than they would be by going it alone. Personally, I think it is a good idea as it does cut costs. Of course, that doesn't justify the creation of B teams. |
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| RJHSaints | Jun 18 2009, 04:13 PM Post #5 |
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If the sliding scale were more gradual it might have a chance. But the teams have clearly rejected £40m for 2010 so I doubt they would accept what is likely (depending on exchange rates) to be an even smaller figure for 2011, even if it were accompanied by a fairly reasonable limit of E100m next year. |
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| Rob | Jun 18 2009, 04:38 PM Post #6 |
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45 is to low IMO. 80 should be the least. |
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| GordonB | Jun 18 2009, 04:41 PM Post #7 |
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Perhaps the teams will agree because there must be some way for the annual cost to get recalculated every year - so they will attempt to get it raised for 2011 *after* they've signed up for 2010. Presumably there must be some mechanism for the budget to get set? Or is it just whatever number Max says in between spanks.
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| mrr9 | Jun 18 2009, 05:48 PM Post #8 |
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why not exclude all wages from the cap and you can hire who ever you want and how many people doing it that way the red team will not have to fire 500+ people plus think about all the other teams jobs will be saved Mark |
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| GordonB | Jun 18 2009, 08:35 PM Post #9 |
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but then that's not really a budget cap is it? |
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I wonder how many teams you could run on the total amount of legal fees incurred by this incessant wrangling all season thanks to the incompetence of the FIA and Max in particular.






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