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FOTA Says FO to KERS
Topic Started: Jun 8 2009, 07:40 AM (278 Views)
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The Formula One Teams' Association is pushing for the sport to abandon KERS entirely next year, after agreeing that the technology should be dropped as it is now too expensive.

Following a limited take-up of the energy recovery device for 2009, members of the teams' organisation have voted in favour of abandoning it entirely next year on money grounds.

While the move has not been universally welcomed, with BMW Sauber in particular once again keen for it to be retained, the majority decision by FOTA means that the move has now been put into action.

BMW motorsport director Mario Theissen said: "We have voted in favour of KERS but, as with all the other FOTA decisions so far, we will go with the majority."

Although KERS is currently allowed in the 2010 technical regulations, there is nothing forcing teams to run it. At the Turkish Grand Prix, only McLaren and Ferrari competed with the device.

Even if the FIA refuses to change the regulations to outlaw it, FOTA agreement would be enough for the technology not to be used.

Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali said that even though his team had invested a lot of time and effort in developing KERS it was for the greater good that the decision had been made to abandon it.

When asked on Sunday night if it was true the teams were pushing for it to be dropped, Domenicali said: "Yes. In terms of the discussion we had within FOTA, we are talking about cost saving for the new teams as well.

"We are the only one together with McLaren who are using it. We invested a lot and we always said that it is difficult for the supporters to understand why there are some cars with KERS and some cars without KERS, so if you have a total logical approach, if we are all together fine then it is better not to have it."


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The Kers was never a good idee in this time of financial crisis. A good way for FOTA to clean up Moseley mess. Now, next one, make sure the rules for 2010 are sufficiently clear as not to end up with this year's interpretation FIAsco leading to a "short" season. Finally no buget cap, as this is meant to be the pinacle of Motorspot.
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I like KERS and think they should expand its use.

If developed correctly, they could run a quarter of the race on battery power.

Now that would be special
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Iberiafromoz,Jun 8 2009
08:40 AM
Finally no buget cap, as this is meant to be the pinacle of Motorspot.

Pinnacle of motor sport? Is this why some times a team will take a pay driver or a free driver over the best driver because the cost of the sport is going up and cannot always afford to put the best on the grid because he doesn't bring in any money.

If these are not the best 22+ drivers in the world in open wheel then surely its not the pinnacle of anything, it's just a circus.

OK my comment might seem a bit of a harsh response but there are definitely at least 2 drivers who should not be in F1 right now and there have always been crap driver in recent years because they brought money.
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Oh I can't let that go uncommented TCG. You've got to name the 2 drivers you mean now!!

(Is one of them Jenson?) <sarcasm>
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dazzerjp,Jun 8 2009
06:58 AM
I like KERS and think they should expand its use.

If developed correctly, they could run a quarter of the race on battery power.

Now that would be special

I'm somewhat with Dazzer.
I'd like to see teams allowed to continue innovation of this sort and have the choice to use it or not. We could see teams making huge trades in HP to weight or such. That's the idea within the pinnacle of racing....

and if the idea gives a team a huge advantage over everyone else, then everyone else is free to adopt it (as long it it meets certain safety requirements - the recent broken teathers on the tires have bothered me a fair bit)
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dazzerjp,Jun 8 2009
05:58 AM
I like KERS and think they should expand its use.

If developed correctly, they could run a quarter of the race on battery power.

Now that would be special

Agreed, but didn't know they could run that far on it. Why limit the time KERS can be used? Really I don't see why it is limited in HP or time for that matter. It could work, just the FIA are f'ing it up.
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Aside from the fact KERS saves energy, it is also the one thing allowing for overtaking in the dry at the moment. I say keep it.
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Rob,Jun 8 2009
02:30 PM
dazzerjp,Jun 8 2009
05:58 AM
I like KERS and think they should expand its use.

If developed correctly, they could run a quarter of the race on battery power.

Now that would be special

Agreed, but didn't know they could run that far on it. Why limit the time KERS can be used? Really I don't see why it is limited in HP or time for that matter. It could work, just the FIA are f'ing it up.

<clap> <clap> <clap> <clap>

That's what I said right from the very start.
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GordonB,Jun 8 2009
10:38 AM
Rob,Jun 8 2009
02:30 PM
dazzerjp,Jun 8 2009
05:58 AM
I like KERS and think they should expand its use.

If developed correctly, they could run a quarter of the race on battery power.

Now that would be special

Agreed, but didn't know they could run that far on it. Why limit the time KERS can be used? Really I don't see why it is limited in HP or time for that matter. It could work, just the FIA are f'ing it up.

<clap> <clap> <clap> <clap>

That's what I said right from the very start.

Well then you were right from the very start. <thumbsup>
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Rob,Jun 8 2009
05:00 PM
GordonB,Jun 8 2009
10:38 AM
Rob,Jun 8 2009
02:30 PM
dazzerjp,Jun 8 2009
05:58 AM
I like KERS and think they should expand its use.

If developed correctly, they could run a quarter of the race on battery power.

Now that would be special

Agreed, but didn't know they could run that far on it. Why limit the time KERS can be used? Really I don't see why it is limited in HP or time for that matter. It could work, just the FIA are f'ing it up.

<clap> <clap> <clap> <clap>

That's what I said right from the very start.

Well then you were right from the very start. <thumbsup>

Because then the poorer teams who couldn't afford to run KERS would be around 6-7 seconds a lap slower than the front runners.

The easy solution to make KERS faster than non-KERS would be to increase the minimum weight to at least 650kg, if not 700kg. They didn't anticipate the problems with weight distribution needed to make the front tyres work
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WEll, this is great everyone has answered that Kers issue while I was sleeping (I am on the otherside of the Pacific standing upside down).
I can see Kers being a fantastic items in a street car of the future, however Kers has been a very expensive excercise for some teams and was not necessary in this time of financial crisis. I guess I didn't explained myself when last posting.

Still waiting on TCG to name those two "paying" drivers. <wave>
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RJHSaints,Jun 8 2009
05:19 PM
Aside from the fact KERS saves energy, it is also the one thing allowing for overtaking in the dry at the moment. I say keep it.

Or preventing overtaking....
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