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Topic Started: Jun 4 2009, 07:39 PM (182 Views)
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Steelstallions
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Jun 4 2009, 07:39 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/f1mole/2009/06/...er-over-f1.html
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The grey clouds glowering over Istanbul on Thursday seemed to match the mood in the paddock ahead of the Turkish Grand Prix.
If Monte Carlo's sunshine signalled an entente cordiale between the sport's governing body, the FIA, and F1 Teams' Association (Fota) over the future of the sport then Turkey's damp weather brought more confusion and uncertainty.
At the Monaco Grand Prix, it appeared that FIA president Max Mosley was prepared to give ground on his plans to impose a 45m euro (£39.6m) budget in 2010.
It all seemed to be agreed; the teams would continue to compete under the existing rules and would be able to spend up to 100m euro (£87.6m) next year with the full cap introduced in 2011.
Mosley was also understood to be ready to sign a new Concorde Agreement - or at least an extension to the one that expired in 2007 - which would give the teams more say in how the sport is governed.
In return, the established teams offered to share knowledge with any new outfits entering next season.
But just 11 days later - and with the prospective entries for 2010 handed in to the FIA - the fragility of that resolution has been exposed with Mosley saying if the teams don't like the rules they are free to quit and organise a rival series.
And on 29 May all nine remaining Fota teams, Ferrari, McLaren, Brawn Grand Prix, Renault, BMW Sauber, Toyota, Red Bull, Toro Rosso and Force India, submitted conditional entries for next season's championship.
They insisted they would only race if they were able to operate under the current technical regulations and with the higher budget agreed in Monaco.
Williams were suspended from Fota for agreeing to compete next season regardless of the regulations.
However, a cluster of new teams have also emerged as potential competitors in 2010.
In all, 10 known new teams have submitted entries to the FIA. They believe that they are entering a cost-capped championship with technical assistance to keep them competitive.
With Williams pretty much guaranteed to be on the grid, that is more than enough to hold a championship without any of the Fota teams. Their participation in 2010 hangs on the FIA giving in to at least some of their demands.
Some F1 insiders believe Mosley has no intention of going ahead with the compromise he brokered with Fota in Monaco.The FIA president is understood to want to forge ahead with his plan to run the championship as he wants and to stick to his rules on the budget cap, which reward teams who operate within the £40m figure with greater technical freedom.
Some believe Mosley is so wedded to the idea that he is prepared to lose big names like Ferrari, Renault and Toyota, who have all threatened to quit the sport if the budget cap is imposed.
All that may go some way to explain the scurrying of key players around the Istanbul paddock on Thursday.
With Mosley absent in Istanbul, Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali went to meet the president's representative, Alan Donnelly, in the FIA motor home.
Rather ominously, the electric blinds whirred down to black out the windows and keep prying eyes away once Domenicali sat down for a tête-à-tête with the FIA man.
After emerging from the dark, Domenicali moved swiftly on for a meeting at McLaren HQ.
When asked about the current state of negotiations between Fota and the FIA, he shrugged his shoulders and replied: "What can I say? Nothing."
An official Fota meeting is not scheduled for this weekend, although there is no doubt the team principals will have plenty to talk about in Turkey.
One nugget to emerge already in Istanbul is that the idea for the Fota teams to submit "conditional" entries came from Mosley himself with the promise to discuss the finer details once the paperwork had been received.
But with the FIA set to announce which entrants have been chosen to line up on the 2010 grid on 12 June, time for talking is running out fast.
A liar, a pervert, the son of a nazi and now the man who finally kills F1
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Jun 5 2009, 07:20 AM
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- Steelstallions,Jun 4 2009
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A liar, a pervert, the son of a nazi and now the man who finally kills F1
He is no more perverse than a many... to me people mutilating their body with all kinds of piercings is equally perverse... yet what max did was with consenting adults in private so a less of the holier than thou attitude is called for...
And His father was not a NAZI he was a fascist... there is a difference, and even if he was... Max was or is neither so again pointless comment...
As for Liar and killing F1..... Spot On
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Jun 5 2009, 09:10 AM
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LOL Aunty is always last with the F1 news.
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Steelstallions
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Jun 5 2009, 05:04 PM
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- John,Jun 5 2009
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- Steelstallions,Jun 4 2009
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A liar, a pervert, the son of a nazi and now the man who finally kills F1
He is no more perverse than a many... to me people mutilating their body with all kinds of piercings is equally perverse... yet what max did was with consenting adults in private so a less of the holier than thou attitude is called for... . As for Liar and killing F1..... Spot On 
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And His father was not a NAZI he was a fascist... there is a difference, and even if he was... Max was or is neither so again pointless comment..
A pedantic reply as Nazism is often considered by scholars to be a form of fascism. I doubt very much that Max was not influenced at all by his father regardless of the fact Max is not currently the leader of the British Fascist Party. That said Fascism comprises a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology and a corporatist economic ideology. Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in combat against the weak. Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement
The way he runs FIA would make his father very proud !
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He is no more perverse than a many...
Whether or not there are more radical types or not, he is a Pervert. Perversion is a concept describing those types of human behavior that are perceived to be a serious deviation from what is considered to be orthodox or normal. Although it can refer to varying forms of deviation, it is most often used to describe sexual behaviors that are seen as abnormal or excessive. Perversion differs from deviant behavior, since the latter refers to a recognized violation of social rules or norms (although the two terms can apply to the same thing). It is often considered derogatory and in psychological literature the term paraphilia is now used instead[1], though this term is controversial.
Though the above description of Max could have been left out, I think the fact we agree he is a liar and most likely the man to destroy F1 is enough to hope he retires soon..............very soon!
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