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Who said there were no double standards in F1
Topic Started: May 24 2009, 10:51 PM (1,018 Views)
Alien_SAP_Fiend
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Craze_b0i,May 26 2009
10:02 AM
Alien_SAP_Fiend,May 26 2009
09:56 AM
Monty,May 25 2009
12:34 AM
F1 drivers are paid to take every find every advantage possible, its the FIA's fault for having such pathetic kerbs at the swimming pool.

Why is there that chicane at the end of the tunnel? It's just about the only place that there ever might be a chance to overtake in what is otherwise the dullest race of the season.

Health and safety I guess. The tunnel is the only place in Monaco where the cars can go fast. I am guessing there is no room at the following corner to build a proper run-off area, hence the need for a mickey mouse chicane.

How about a huge net!?!
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Craze_b0i,May 26 2009
11:02 AM
Health and safety I guess. The tunnel is the only place in Monaco where the cars can go fast. I am guessing there is no room at the following corner to build a proper run-off area, hence the need for a mickey mouse chicane.

Tabac is ridiculously narrow anyway, I doubt there would be too much overtaking into there even if the chicane wasn't there. On balance the chicane is probably the best solution.
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Red Andy,May 25 2009
06:59 PM
I think an appeal to the Court of Tau might be a better bet, he is the supreme authority on Fantasy F1 matters!

If the FIA says Massa gets the fastest lap on lap 50, then so do I.


Wow, I'm agreeing with the FIA. <blink>
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Lord Tau,May 26 2009
03:25 PM
Red Andy,May 25 2009
06:59 PM
I think an appeal to the Court of Tau might be a better bet, he is the supreme authority on Fantasy F1 matters!

If the FIA says Massa gets the fastest lap on lap 50, then so do I.


Wow, I'm agreeing with the FIA. <blink>

Well, if the lap he did was the fastest, then it was the fastest lap, regardless of the spray-on chicane. After all, the lap record at the old Donington is held by Ayrton Senna, and that was on the lap he pitted but went straight through as the team weren't ready. No speed limit in those days, and the route was much shorter because it avoided the last corner by several hundred yards!
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stradlin24,May 26 2009
03:21 AM
Yeah your right Rob. I did attack people who jumped on the anti-Lewis bandwagon but that was a while ago. I apologised and I have recently tried to make my contributions a lot more constructive but if I keep getting attacked by mods and they keep throwing things back in my face then I give up

Your attack was unprovoked and deliberately inflammatory, you were trying to get a rise out of me but if that’s how you chose to conduct yourself then fine. You chose to attack me and make it personal, I did not…

Although, no doubt when it’s all said and done I’ll turn out to be the bad guy. I really want to know why I’m subject to this constant hounding by mods. What have I done to upset you so much?

Like I said before our differences have nothing to do with me being a mod. I disagreed with you before I was a mod, and if something happens to where I am no longer a mod, I'll probably disagree with you again.

I have no desire to make you a bad guy. It gains me nothing. I disagreed with you, you accused the mods of targeting you, I disagreed. No bad guy no good guy, just two people with a difference of opinion.
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Rob
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I'm fairly certain the warning from the FIA came before lap 50 when Massa set the fastest lap.
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TheCompleteGuitarist
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regardless of when he set the races fastest lap, he was posting fastest lap after fastest lap before that point and a fast lap on a heavy car cutting a chicane is different than a fastest lap on a light car not cutting a chicane.
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Yeh he put in some quick laps in that stint, but again without the data it proves nothing. The question is were the laps where jumped the chicane faster/slower than the previous lap...
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John,May 26 2009
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Petra Lead,May 26 2009
02:30 AM
For example John and I used to knock heads quite agressively over all things Schumacher, Hill and Ferrari, starting on 606 and working it's way across several boards, which often descended into personal insults. It took a long time but in the end I think we worked out how to get our points across without needing to have a ruck.

Well, either that or I finally battered him into submission but to be honest if there is anyone even more stubborn than me it's him so I doubt that's the case!

LOL... Petra, you make such compelling arguments now it's harder to disagree quite as often these days

Stradlin is one of the most knowledgeable members when it comes to motorsports especially the US racing genre... but when it comes to F1... well we see what happens... we all have an achilles heel...

He was not alone in this as there was a time when we had a lot more members (mostly marshals) who also gave F1 a hard time, but over time they have moved on and so Stradlin now stands out more in his views... and this might be why he feels under attack but I doubt there is anything more sinister involving the forum mods.

Sorry for the lateness in replying to this post ...

IF my posts are more compelling it's because I learned several things in the course of knocking heads with you :

1) Not to present my opinions as fact.
2) To be open and honest in admitting my bias where such exists.
3) To try to ground my opinions in some vague semblance of logic.
4) Never to resort to name calling. Ever.
5) But if I do, to at least have the good grace to apologise.

and, most importantly....

6) Never to insult Michael Schumacher!

As to Stradlin I would never argue that he is not extremely knowledgeable, especially regarding US motorsports.

I would like to say also that in the course of catching up on the past few days of posts (I've been away) that I have noticed that Stradlin has made some bloody good posts. I feel that the tone of his posts is much more measured and the content considered, intelligent, articulate and enjoyable.

Long may it continue.

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Petra Lead,Jun 5 2009
11:46 PM
I would like to say also that in the course of catching up on the past few days of posts (I've been away) that I have noticed that Stradlin has made some bloody good posts. I feel that the tone of his posts is much more measured and the content considered, intelligent, articulate and enjoyable.

Long may it continue.

<thumbsup>
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Red Andy,May 26 2009
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Craze_b0i,May 26 2009
11:02 AM
Health and safety I guess. The tunnel is the only place in Monaco where the cars can go fast. I am guessing there is no room at the following corner to build a proper run-off area, hence the need for a mickey mouse chicane.

Tabac is ridiculously narrow anyway, I doubt there would be too much overtaking into there even if the chicane wasn't there. On balance the chicane is probably the best solution.

weren't alot of the chicanes brought in as a knee-jerk to Senna's untimely demise to slow the cars down?

I'd be interested to see the comparitive lap times of the cars pre-94 and now
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I think the chicane was reprofiled from its original fast layout to the current slow one before 1994, but in any case that corner was where Wendlinger had his accident that year. So if any knee-jerk reaction applied, it was probably to Wendlinger's accident rather than Senna's.

For completeness, the pole position time in 1994 was 1'18"560, whereas in 2009 it was 1'14"902. But the cars are a lot faster everywhere now than they were in '94.
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