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Mclaren's Appeal
Topic Started: Sep 8 2008, 04:00 PM (178 Views)
slbb2611
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i've heard on a couple of other forums that Mclaren won't be able to appeal the stewards decision because it was a drive-thru does anyone know if this is true?
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Red Andy
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Hi and welcome to TPL. <thumbsup>

If a drive-through penalty was given in the race, normally an appeal would not be possible because obviously a D/T penalty is irreversible. Since the penalty was applied after the race, it obviously can be reversed but whether such a move is permitted under the rules I'm not sure.

Autosport and other websites seem to indicate nothing unusual in McLaren's intention to appeal the decision the stewards made in Belgium, so perhaps they will be allowed to appeal.
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John
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McLaren have no appeal... <no>



Oh... you meant their FIA appeal over the Spa decision <doh>

If a driver was black flagged and the team appealed... you cannot change the result as there is no way of knowing where the DSQ'd driver would have finished.

But I would say that a team can appeal this decision... especially as the result can be changed back...
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Red Andy
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Point is, John, that Hamilton was given a drive-through penalty. However, the rules state that if an offence is committed in the last three laps (or maybe five?), a 25-second time penalty is imposed instead. Because drive-through penalties are not normally subject to appeal, maybe the same applies to the time penalties also. I've got to admit that I don't know for certain, but it could be the case.
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John
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but the team where not informed during the race where they... this all happened afterwards... so we know how the race finished should the decision be reversed..

but I am as much in the dark as to what can and cannot be appealed... the danger is loosing an appeal can bring further punishments.
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slbb2611
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thanks for the welcome

autosport seem unsure about whether Mclaren have the right to appeal i dont know whether anyones appealed a time pentalty before but im guessing not

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There are some doubts about whether McLaren are allowed to appeal against a drive-through penalty, which means the Court of Appeal may first have to decide at its hearing whether or not the appeal is admissible.
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Norbert
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For consistancy I don't think they should be able to appeal. As I've said elsewhere, the penalty given was a drivethrough. If there is not time to take a drivethrough it is assessed (apparently) as a 25 second penalty. A drivethrough is unappealable. Therefore there is no reason the McLaren should be able to appeal.

However, if the stewards only made the decision after the race, it seems bloody stupid to assess a drivethrough retrospectively....

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John,Sep 8 2008
05:29 PM
the danger is loosing an appeal can bring further punishments.

Perhaps at the next race Ron's apple juice will be served 0.5c warmer than his usual specification?

<devil>
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