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| Has Kimi Given up?; given his performance at Spa | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 8 2008, 11:51 AM (679 Views) | |
| Alien_SAP_Fiend | Sep 8 2008, 11:51 AM Post #1 |
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He overtook two cars on the first lap and led the entire race. When challenged for the position on the last two laps, he fought tooth and nail for the win, rather than settle for second. Are these the actions of a driver who's only interested in making money? |
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| Rasputin was a C... | Sep 8 2008, 12:28 PM Post #2 |
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I think it's fair to say he proved himself to still have it yesterday, whatever it is. Qualifying was still an issue for him and had he not made up the places at the start he may have not had the great race that he did. Why Ferrari don't fuel him light for qualifying to get him out at the front is beyond me. It's probably why I'm not a tactical genius working for a multi million pound Formula 1 team. It will be interesting to see how he performs to the end of the season now that he will most probably be playing the support role. |
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| RJHSaints | Sep 8 2008, 12:36 PM Post #3 |
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I have always said he did not lack motivation and yesterday proved it. Good show Kimi, now start qualifying better because Massa needs you to take points off Hamilton! |
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| Red Andy | Sep 8 2008, 03:01 PM Post #4 |
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Kimi has often been heard to say, in post-race press conferences, that a race has been "a bit boring" if he has led it from start to finish with no real challenges. Maybe the same is true of the world championship - i.e. he is only fired up to try and win the title if he is attempting to overhaul a massive deficit? He did it last year, maybe yesterday he was thinking about starting something similar, but unfortunately ended up giving the retaining wall a new coat of red paint rather than winning the race. |
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| AndyW76 | Sep 8 2008, 03:03 PM Post #5 |
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After sunday, I don't think Kimi has lost his motivation, though I do think he is getting careless. On the last lap all he had to do was cruise home to secure the points, even if Lewis had passed him. Even second place would have kept him in the WDC. |
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| Alien_SAP_Fiend | Sep 8 2008, 03:23 PM Post #6 |
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The fact that didn't cruise home to secure the points proves that he's not just in it for the money. He and Lewis want to win every race. Unfortunately for them, it's the tactical drivers like Alonso and now Massa who get there in the end. Sadly for us punters, the rules reward 'safe' driving and punish the spectacular stuff. |
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| Red Andy | Sep 8 2008, 03:27 PM Post #7 |
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"Spectacular" driving has never been as rewarding as driving safely and collecting the points that you can. How many world championships did Gilles Villeneuve win? In my view, this is the right way to decide titles, too - being measured, quick and consistent over an entire season is far more reflective of overall skill and ability than going hell-for-leather at every opportunity, and as a result not being able to finish races. |
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| AndyW76 | Sep 8 2008, 03:28 PM Post #8 |
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Got to admit, risk taking does seem to be disapproved of in F1. If drivers dare to push they get called dangerous and reckless. Even JPM (who was supposedly one of the adventurous ones) ended up whining about safety (when he thought copse at silverstone was dangerous). |
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| AndyW76 | Sep 8 2008, 03:30 PM Post #9 |
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Consistency isn't a bad think but could you imaging Senna or Schumacher or mansell "playing it safe". Risk is what makes motorsport exciting and the big risk takers can rise to the top. |
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| Alien_SAP_Fiend | Sep 8 2008, 03:40 PM Post #10 |
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It's knowing when to take the risks. Lewis took an unnecessary risk in trying to pass Kimi in those conditions, even if he was quicker. |
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| AndyW76 | Sep 8 2008, 03:46 PM Post #11 |
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Hell, you could say that about any risk. Like when mansell did this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V2g1yrGputA What if he'd binned it? |
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| dazzerjp | Sep 8 2008, 03:57 PM Post #12 |
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James Hunt was quoted as that move being his all-time favourite. |
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| AndyW76 | Sep 8 2008, 03:59 PM Post #13 |
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I don't think I've ever seen a ballsier move. Only mika hakkinen's move at Spa in 2000 comes close. |
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| ELUSIVEJIM | Sep 8 2008, 04:01 PM Post #14 |
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Yes i agree. Colin Mcrae in my mind was the fastest Rally driver over one stage in any rally but whether he finished was an another issue but BL**** HELL was he fast and exciting to watch
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| AndyW76 | Sep 8 2008, 04:07 PM Post #15 |
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Senna was exciting to watch and a big risk taker and he won 3 WDCs. |
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