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| dazzerjp | Sep 9 2008, 01:01 PM Post #61 |
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The PLURAL of Belgain is Belgains, not the "collective". Beglian is the adjective of the compound noun Grand Prix and has no collective form. Nouns have collective form, but not adjectives Belgian Grand Prix doesnt use the possesive form despite seeming to be a possesive adjective. It would be Belgian's Grand Prix. if it did.
Grand Prix of Belgium is also correct, however the form is passive and is best avoided within the English language, especially in titles. It doesnt "refer to the country in name rather than by ownership" but just changes the active/passive relationship, Im afraid. It just means grand Prix is more important than Belgium Belgium Grand Prix is correct. Belgian Grand Prix is also correct, but it assumes prior knowldge of the subject and is thus the informal version. In a petition, it is common place for the useafge of formal prose. So , in this instance the authour is correct. Belgium Grand Prix - takes place in Belguim Belgian Grand Prix - the same but informal, singular Belgain racer Belgian's Grand Prix - belonging to the peole of Belgium Belgium's grand Prix - it belongs to belgium or has only belgium drivers Belgiums Grand Prix - just wrong and belgium is not countable in its noun form. The Grands Prix of Belgium would work, noting that the couter prefix is Grand rather than the expected prix English has its myriads of rules mostly due to the absorbing of sub set languages such as French, German, etc. In that respect, English is by far and a way the most developed oral and wriiten language on this planet. EDITED to correct spolling mistakes and tidy up. |
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| AndyW76 | Sep 9 2008, 01:58 PM Post #62 |
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Now my head hurts. |
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| dazzerjp | Sep 9 2008, 02:25 PM Post #63 |
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TBH, I was getting bored as I was writing it. 22130 Total Signatures for those who may be interested |
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| Norbert | Sep 9 2008, 02:28 PM Post #64 |
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Missed some of them, not to mention the "greengrocer's apostrophes"......
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| dazzerjp | Sep 9 2008, 02:30 PM Post #65 |
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lol. you are joking right?
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| Norbert | Sep 9 2008, 02:33 PM Post #66 |
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No. lol Unless Belgain is a nationality..... |
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| dazzerjp | Sep 9 2008, 02:43 PM Post #67 |
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?? adding the 's makes the noun/adjective possessive. Belgian is an adjective. Belgium - Proper singluar noun Belgiums - Proper plural noun - 2 belgiums or more Belgium's - Possesive noun Belgian - Singular adjective Belgians - Plural adj. - not correct, ie 2 pinks car Belgian's - Possessive adjective of the noun - Grand Prix ah, I see. My spolling. Its the wife computer Im using today and it's a not English language. |
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| John | Sep 9 2008, 02:46 PM Post #68 |
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Wow... Impressive...
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| dazzerjp | Sep 9 2008, 02:47 PM Post #69 |
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| FlutterBy | Sep 9 2008, 04:56 PM Post #70 |
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If there were a postal petition, would you 'invalidate' it by sending 5 responses? |
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| John | Sep 9 2008, 05:06 PM Post #71 |
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Evening FB... No... and if you had taken a little time to read all my posts you would have seen that I said that had all those truly 'angered' by this borderline (but legitimate) decision put pen to paper and wrote to the FIA that would have been a truer representation of feeling... This farcical petition is a way for some to vent their spleen... It is lazy because just as I added a few Sig's... reading through it you can clearly see others also signed more than once... even using the same name However as the overall number of signatures is what really matters (to some) surely the more the merrier |
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| FlutterBy | Sep 9 2008, 07:28 PM Post #72 |
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You have validated my objection by ignoring it. I have no more to say on the matter; the readers of this thread will form their own opinions. |
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| Rob | Sep 9 2008, 07:42 PM Post #73 |
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Pretty much any petition that doesn't require proof that anyone who signs it only signs once is automatically invalid. |
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| John | Sep 9 2008, 08:36 PM Post #74 |
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| John | Sep 9 2008, 08:40 PM Post #75 |
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I naturally agree |
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