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2008 Fastest Race Laps; Interesting...
Topic Started: Aug 19 2008, 11:17 AM (938 Views)
Alien_SAP_Fiend
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Melbourne - Heikki Kovalainen - 218.385kph
Sepang - Nick Heidfeld - 209.244kph
Bahrain International Circuit - Heikki Kovalainen - 209.062kph
Circuit de Catalunya - Kimi Räikkönen - 205.191kph
Istanbul - Kimi Räikkönen - 222.144kph
Monte-Carlo - Kimi Räikkönen - 156.789kph
Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal - Kimi Räikkönen - 202.871kph
Magny-Cours - Kimi Räikkönen - 207.224kph
Silverstone - Kimi Räikkönen - 200.842kph
Hockenheimring - Nick Heidfeld - 216.700kph
Hungaroring - Kimi Räikkönen - 194.243kph
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Point make prizes, not fastest laps. <doh>
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Eggzakly.
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Alien_SAP_Fiend,Aug 19 2008
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Eggzakly.

I guess it also helps when you produce the speed in quallie as well. <think>
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Kimi: fastest over a lap, but not fastest over a race. Would suggest Ferrari have the pace the other teams need to beat, but not the drivers to get the job done in each race.
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That's when it matters. If there was a point awarded for the fastest lap during the race, Kimi would be leading the WDC :D
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Bear,Aug 19 2008
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Kimi: fastest over a lap, but not fastest over a race. Would suggest Ferrari have the pace the other teams need to beat, but not the drivers to get the job done in each race.

Would suggest a lot of things, including the fact that the Ferrari takes a while to get its tyres to their optimum and that Kimi gets into his stride later on in the race, which is why he often qualifies with a few extra laps of fuel on board and jumps opponents who beat him in qualifying.
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Alien_SAP_Fiend,Aug 19 2008
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Bear,Aug 19 2008
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Kimi: fastest over a lap, but not fastest over a race. Would suggest Ferrari have the pace the other teams need to beat, but not the drivers to get the job done in each race.

Would suggest a lot of things, including the fact that the Ferrari takes a while to get its tyres to their optimum and that Kimi gets into his stride later on in the race, which is why he often qualifies with a few extra laps of fuel on board and jumps opponents who beat him in qualifying.

It is also noticed that in the last few GPs that Kimi has suddnely upped his pace toward the end when he is oput of contention and the leaders are cruising home, which begs the question, where the f*** is kimi and his speed at the start of races?

On the question of strategy, I don't recall kimi going much further than anyone else for his first stop on a regular basis. In fact, the Ferrari's more commonly run similar strategies.
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AndyW76,Aug 19 2008
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On the question of strategy, I don't recall kimi going much further than anyone else for his first stop on a regular basis. In fact, the Ferrari's more commonly run similar strategies.

I do recall him doing it a lot last year, in the second part of the season, where he suddenly woke up and realised that he had a WDC to win.

So far this year he and Massa have been stopping a lap or two apart, but I don't recall Massa or Lewis running longer than Kimi.
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Alien_SAP_Fiend,Aug 19 2008
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AndyW76,Aug 19 2008
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On the question of strategy, I don't recall kimi going much further than anyone else for his first stop on a regular basis. In fact, the Ferrari's more commonly run similar strategies.

I do recall him doing it a lot last year, in the second part of the season, where he suddenly woke up and realised that he had a WDC to win.

So far this year he and Massa have been stopping a lap or two apart, but I don't recall Massa or Lewis running longer than Kimi.

Massa ran longer than Raikkonen in Magny-Cours, to give an example. There are probably others too.
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Alien_SAP_Fiend,Aug 19 2008
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AndyW76,Aug 19 2008
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On the question of strategy, I don't recall kimi going much further than anyone else for his first stop on a regular basis. In fact, the Ferrari's more commonly run similar strategies.

I do recall him doing it a lot last year, in the second part of the season, where he suddenly woke up and realised that he had a WDC to win.

So far this year he and Massa have been stopping a lap or two apart, but I don't recall Massa or Lewis running longer than Kimi.

Well, I guess that this year mcLaren and ferrari aren't taking as many risks strategically.
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The point is that the fastest car/driver doesn't necessarily win due to the tactical element involved, traffic, etc.... I suspect a good deal of the reason for Kimi getting fastest lap is to remind people that he's bloody quick
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AndyW76,Aug 19 2008
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Alien_SAP_Fiend,Aug 19 2008
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Bear,Aug 19 2008
11:47 AM
Kimi: fastest over a lap, but not fastest over a race. Would suggest Ferrari have the pace the other teams need to beat, but not the drivers to get the job done in each race.

Would suggest a lot of things, including the fact that the Ferrari takes a while to get its tyres to their optimum and that Kimi gets into his stride later on in the race, which is why he often qualifies with a few extra laps of fuel on board and jumps opponents who beat him in qualifying.

It is also noticed that in the last few GPs that Kimi has suddnely upped his pace toward the end when he is oput of contention and the leaders are cruising home, which begs the question, where the f*** is kimi and his speed at the start of races?

He's in traffic, usually. In clear air relative to the other front runners this season, he is still in a class of his own.
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'In a class of his own'?

The only reason Raikkonen is so much faster than others (in terms of fastest laps) is because he is pushing to show off his speed in the late part of the race where the track is in optimum condition, having cocked up the early part due to qualifying and a bad start, while everyone else is basically settled for their position and trying to bring the car home.

Unless of course Kovalainen can claim to have been in a class of his own at the tracks where he set the fastest lap by a mile....maybe it's a Finnish thing? <think>
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RJHSaints,Aug 19 2008
07:51 PM
'In a class of his own'?

The only reason Raikkonen is so much faster than others (in terms of fastest laps) is because he is pushing to show off his speed in the late part of the race where the track is in optimum condition, having cocked up the early part due to qualifying and a bad start, while everyone else is basically settled for their position and trying to bring the car home.

Hardly, the data shows that the majority of his fastest laps came earlier on in the race:

Spanish GP - Lap 46
Turkish GP - Lap 20
Monaco GP - Lap 74
Canada GP - Lap 14
French GP - Lap 16
British GP - Lap 18
Hungarian GP - Lap 61

The Monaco GP can be explained because the track was drying out. Only the Hungarian fastest lap came close to being at the end of a race.
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