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Ferrari Moan about Bridgestone
Topic Started: Aug 14 2008, 06:03 AM (1,082 Views)
Norbert
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AndyW76,Aug 14 2008
12:08 PM
Then why are ferrari moaning now then? I don't recall McLaren moaning about tyres.

Why would they when they seemingly get the ones suited to them rather than anyone else?
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Alien_SAP_Fiend,Aug 14 2008
11:23 AM
So, by going more conservative on the tyre compound, Bridgestone are penalising the teams whose cars are kinder to the tyres because it is more difficult for them to get the tyres up to temperature, while the advantage of longer tyre life is negated.

If there were multiple tyre suppliers, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Well, I'm sure there are tracks where the cars that are tough on tyres actually suffer, like Istanbul. The tyres are supplied to suit the whole field, not just one team and that is how the rules are at the moment.

I agree that the tyre rules are too restrictive. The "one size fits all" philosophy is completely against the nature of F1 and employing a single tyre or the current rules does cause inequities between the teams.
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So.... they should scrap the one tyre supplier rule then <thumbsup>
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u4coffee,Aug 14 2008
12:48 PM
So.... they should scrap the one tyre supplier rule then  <thumbsup>

Not so much that but I do think that Bridgestone should be allowed to bring more compunds to a GP and that the teams should have free choice on the tyres they use and be allowed to mix and match compound, such as on a track with predoninantly right hand turns they could run soft tyres on the right hand side of the car and harder tryes on the left hand side to optimise tyre useage.
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AndyW76,Aug 14 2008
06:36 PM
u4coffee,Aug 14 2008
12:48 PM
So.... they should scrap the one tyre supplier rule then  <thumbsup>

Not so much that but I do think that Bridgestone should be allowed to bring more compunds to a GP and that the teams should have free choice on the tyres they use and be allowed to mix and match compound, such as on a track with predoninantly right hand turns they could run soft tyres on the right hand side of the car and harder tryes on the left hand side to optimise tyre useage.

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AndyW76,Aug 14 2008
02:06 PM
u4coffee,Aug 14 2008
12:48 PM
So.... they should scrap the one tyre supplier rule then  <thumbsup>

Not so much that but I do think that Bridgestone should be allowed to bring more compunds to a GP and that the teams should have free choice on the tyres they use and be allowed to mix and match compound, such as on a track with predoninantly right hand turns they could run soft tyres on the right hand side of the car and harder tryes on the left hand side to optimise tyre useage.

Sounds like a good idea..... Probably why the FIA never thought of it <think>
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AndyW76,Aug 14 2008
08:06 AM
u4coffee,Aug 14 2008
12:48 PM
So.... they should scrap the one tyre supplier rule then  <thumbsup>

Not so much that but I do think that Bridgestone should be allowed forced to bring more compunds to a GP....

Wasn't it Bridgestone who only wanted to bring two compounds per race?
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Rob,Aug 14 2008
03:27 PM
AndyW76,Aug 14 2008
08:06 AM
u4coffee,Aug 14 2008
12:48 PM
So.... they should scrap the one tyre supplier rule then  <thumbsup>

Not so much that but I do think that Bridgestone should be allowed forced to bring more compunds to a GP....

Wasn't it Bridgestone who only wanted to bring two compounds per race?

I thought it was Mad max that came up with this bollocks "option tyre" rule.
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I know, let's stop the arguing over which compound to use and how many sets of tyres you can have by using one set for quali and all the race!

Hang on, didn't someone try that before.....? <think>

<roflmao> <roflmao> <roflmao>
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AndyW76,Aug 14 2008
04:29 PM
I thought it was Mad max that came up with this bollocks "option tyre" rule.

Not sure if it the two tyre rule was the cause or the effect TBH..... it's crap, whatever reason....

Tyre choice should be free. In any case, the actual cost of the tyres is pretty small, and they're easily recycled too. There's no reason why the F1 circus couldn't start with a finite amount of rubber at the beginning of the season and end up with about 75% still in use at the end of it. It's only really the tread that wears down, the sidewalls don't, and I'm sure that the carcass can be recycled or reused in some way or another.....
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I'm pretty sure ithey could anmd I suspect that they already do, but free tyre rules entails the FIA giving up some sort of control, which they loath to do.
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I like the tyre rules as they are now, although there should be a bigger difference between the option and prime they bring to every race (this is promised for next year).
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Norbert,Aug 14 2008
10:38 AM
Actually, Ferrari AND RENAULT moan about Bridgestone....

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Renault's engineering boss Pat Symonds is backing Ferrari's stance.

"The selection for Hockenheim was definitely too hard," he said. "Also for Spa and Monza a step further on the soft side would be sufficient."


As usual, the fact that it isn't only Ferrari complaining is conveniently forgotten in the persuit of trashing them......

<rolleyes>

thou shalt never sin eh norbs?!!!!

god forbid you should ever say anything negative about McLaren

but as you've set your stall out now, i shall monitor your future posts with interest and be ready to quote your very words!!
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Alien_SAP_Fiend,Aug 14 2008
10:11 AM

This contrived bollocks of forcing teams to use both compounds is a desperate attempt to alleviate the tedium of all teams using exactly the same tyre when it suits them and trying to inject some of the variability which was lost as the other tyre suppliers were pushed out of the sport.


No, no it's not.

Sadly it is even more cynical than that.

This contrived bollocks of forcing teams to use both compounds is a desperate attempt by Bridgestone to get their name mentioned at every opportunity.

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AndyW76,Aug 14 2008
10:47 AM
Norbert,Aug 14 2008
10:40 AM
The single supplier is no issue.  The dual compound rule is a farce though.  Teams shoud be allowed to have a tyre which suits their car, not just the field average.  Both Ferrari and McLaren have suffered due to this, and I'll bet they aren't the only ones.

True. When Goodyear were the sole supplier, they used to bring 4 or 5 compound to every race so the teams could vary their tyre strategy. The only limit was on the number of sets of tyres used in qualifying. Limitations on compound were brought in to prevent a tyre war when Goddyear's monopoly on F1 ended and now the FIA continues the policy because they seem to think that it will control speeds.

Awww, you guys; I love you guys.

If simple folk such as we can see such an obvious truth how then is it not possible for those that run the show not to?

I have said it before and I shall say it again; this is a classic case of the tail wagging the dog.

Furthermore, in case I haven't mentioned it recently; Bridgestone smell of wee.
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