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ITV-F1 team to be axed in BBC switch?
Topic Started: May 20 2008, 05:47 PM (1,736 Views)
Rams
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John,May 23 2008
10:05 PM
what a load of old waffle... real F1 fans are interested in ALL F1 drivers and teams, and expect the courtesy of seeing /hearing about them on an F1 programme <doh>

Everyone accepts that ITV will have some bias... that is to be expected...

but what some on there fail again (and again and again) to accept is that ITV will go to extraordinary lengths just to give ALL it's viewers (regardless of nationality) every last detail of Hamilton's breakfast, rather than devote some of what little air time they are allocated to letting ALL viewers know what is happening with OTHER teams and drivers (even other British drivers would be a change)

Saying they are just being patriotic is a dumb-ass answer as their role is not to be patriotic... it is to provide a balanced report of F1... it can be slightly biased to British teams/drivers fair enough... but it isn't even that... is is so blatantly one driver orientated it is a JOKE.

If you (and others) cannot see that.... then fair enough.... but don't get upset when other, less blinkered, viewers (both British and non-British) voice genuine concerns.



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oh... touched a raw nerve there.<roflmao>

@Saying they are just being patriotic is a dumb-ass answer as their role is not to be patriotic@

fruity language there.

itv are supposed to be biased and patriotic. as i said, the public gets what the public wants and they wants lewis hamilton.

you seem to forget JAs fawning over Shoemaker. he was just as bad then.

oh, during qual - double check the space behind the ferrari cockpit. you[ll see an italian flag. also on the driver overalls and when either cross the line to win, an italian flag is waved to celebrate.

an italian team waving italian flags. simple facts, not opinion. being italian is very important to ferrari, as is being japanese to honda or toyota.

i dont reme,ber mclaren waving a union jack when lewis last won
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Rams,May 23 2008
02:51 PM
"If advertising didn't work they wouldn't do it".

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TheCompleteGuitarist,May 23 2008
03:50 PM
These people know what they are doing.

Don't forget the old adage - 50% of marketing is wasted, but no-one knows which.
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dazzerjp,May 23 2008
02:53 PM
An italian team waving italian flags. simple facts, not opinion. being italian is very important to ferrari, as is being japanese to honda or toyota.

i dont remember mclaren waving a union jack when lewis last won

How dare they, don't they know that there is no place for patriotism in F1 <sarcasm>
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TheCompleteGuitarist,May 23 2008
03:32 PM
Sorry John, but ITV's job is to make as much money out of its viewing public, which just happen to be British, that being their broadcast market. Not to pander to a small percentage of hardcore F1 fans.

Don't be sorry.... but as pointed out they make their money regardless of the nationality of the viewing public...

and who said anything about 'hardcore' fans... I would expect that the 'average' F1 fan would like to see more about F1...

if anything the pander to the small percentage of hardcore Hammy's Boys
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Listen to the Japanese commentary at the start

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1fpSRkYKUuI

That's the sort of passion we need
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dazzerjp,May 23 2008
01:47 PM
I can see it is difficult for some non-british forum members to understand. But, James Allen is British, as of course is Lewis, Hill, and Mansell.

So for the vast majority of the British population, it is natural to take greater interest in the efforts of ones countryman in internatioanl sport. ITV F1 coverage is non less or more bias than BBC five live England footie matches. Its what the vast majority want.

Its only the minority - the socially anti-patriotic outcasts - that object so strongly. But, hey their the minority and a vast number seem to have found companionship in the halls of this forum...

I suppose what is difficult to understand, is why an English supporter would hate their own countrtyman so much.

very correct

those that don't like it just don't watch it if it bothers you that much

and it really must bother people alot from the amount of posts i've seen

get over yourselves and stop being so pathetic

the last line of your posts sums it up, the whole Hamilton 'backlash' is a complete joke led by narrow minded fools who don't like to be part of a majority and like to pick fault with everything

...the kind of people that write to points of view to complain about adverts because they have nothing better to do
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It's no backlash against Hamilton, why can't people understand that. We simply want a fair and balanced commentary. We are not anti-Hamilton, but we are not pro pro Hamilton either. No-one is complaining that there is SOME support for Hamilton shown, but it goes over the top.

And it's pointless to say watch it elsewhere when we can only get it on one channel.
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stradlin23,May 23 2008
07:21 PM
dazzerjp,May 23 2008
01:47 PM
I can see it is difficult for some non-british forum members to understand. But, James Allen is British, as of course is Lewis, Hill, and Mansell.

So for the vast majority of the British population, it is natural to take greater interest in  the efforts of ones countryman in internatioanl sport. ITV F1 coverage is non less or more bias than BBC five live England footie matches.  Its what the vast majority want.

Its only the minority - the socially anti-patriotic outcasts - that object so strongly.  But, hey their the minority and a vast number seem to have found companionship in the halls of this forum...

I suppose what is difficult to understand, is why an English supporter would hate their own countrtyman so much.

very correct

those that don't like it just don't watch it if it bothers you that much

and it really must bother people alot from the amount of posts i've seen

get over yourselves and stop being so pathetic

the last line of your posts sums it up, the whole Hamilton 'backlash' is a complete joke led by narrow minded fools who don't like to be part of a majority and like to pick fault with everything

...the kind of people that write to points of view to complain about adverts because they have nothing better to do

I once had a similar discussion on 606 and I suggested to one guy that I'd be more likely to cheer on my son/daughter at a school sports day than another member of the school (for obvious reasons) and I can't actually repeat in polite society what he called me as the discussion ensued.
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stradlin23,May 23 2008
02:21 PM


get over yourselves and stop being so pathetic

the last line of your posts sums it up, the whole Hamilton 'backlash' is a complete joke led by narrow minded fools who don't like to be part of a majority and like to pick fault with everything

The irony is deafening....
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...you can actually watch F1 on your laptops on the TVU player from Speedtv with American commentary....

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Rams,May 23 2008
07:35 PM
It's no backlash against Hamilton, why can't people understand that. We simply want a fair and balanced commentary. We are not anti-Hamilton, but we are not pro pro Hamilton either. No-one is complaining that there is SOME support for Hamilton shown, but it goes over the top.

And it's pointless to say watch it elsewhere when we can only get it on one channel.

Exactly, kimi is my favorite driver and has been since JV left, however i would be just as annoyed with the coverage if they devoted as much time to kimi as they do to hamilton.

I want to see a balanced report of the world of F1 and what is happening over the race weekend!

is that to much to ask?
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10:21 PM
I want to see a balanced report of the world of F1 and what is happening over the race weekend!

is that to much to ask?

It shouldn't be.

I watched the German F1 coverage when the Schumacher's were still driving, and I thought the German coverage was great. Naturally they did focus a proportion of time on the German speaking drivers, and with MS winning often, he did draw more TV time than others, but they still gave air time and regular interviews from the other drivers.

I am not a MS hater, but have never supported him, and I didn't feel that they went ott with the Schumacher love.

There is nothing wrong with having a bit of pride for your fellow countryman's success, but it's not what drives everyone in their choice of who to support and it seems from what I'm reading that some people feel the ITV coverage goes too far on the Hamilton love, to the detriment of coverage of other equally worthy drivers who just don't happen to be British.
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Shhhhhh Mrs S, you'll shatter the myth of local driver-centric coverage in other countries ..........
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