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| Heikki; Star or Stooge? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 12 2008, 08:54 AM (897 Views) | |
| bricon | May 12 2008, 07:32 PM Post #16 |
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Heikki was on alighter fuel load and in front of Hammi, so just my point. |
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| RJHSaints | May 12 2008, 07:44 PM Post #17 |
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I am reasonably certain McLaren did not try to rig it so that Lewis beat Heikki. They may have told Heikki to let Lewis through at the start, but that is a different matter. They could have originally been on different strategies and that would have been good sense. Of course, Raikkonen hitting Heikki at the start means we'll never know. |
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| bricon | May 12 2008, 07:45 PM Post #18 |
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Whitmarsh believes Heikki would have won if not for Kimi clipping him. |
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| RJHSaints | May 12 2008, 08:02 PM Post #19 |
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See relevant thread for my thoughts on that theory.
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| safc_fan89 | May 13 2008, 08:03 AM Post #20 |
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It's a bit stupid to say that Kovalainen was under orders to allow Hamilton to go through. It was pretty obvious due to the nature of the grid tyhat Hamilton would probably pass into turn 1, as he was on the cleaner side. As for Kovalainen 'being told to block Kimi', why the hell would he do anything else? They may both be Finnish but this is F1, not a bloody playground. Everyone defends their position. Btw if Kovalainen was as fast as Lewis in race mode, he would have finished higher than 12th or wherever he finished. He lacks the spark that Lewis has. |
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| Monty | May 13 2008, 09:14 AM Post #21 |
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How do you know this, according to Whitmarsh Heikki was heavier than Massa meaning he was 4-5 laps heavier than Hamilton. Also Kovalainen didnt destroy his tyres so he was going to do a 2 stop. |
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| Alien_SAP_Fiend | May 14 2008, 08:18 PM Post #22 |
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Because it's against the rules to tell one driver to move over for another. Is it not? |
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| bricon | May 15 2008, 08:22 AM Post #23 |
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Woops meant to say Heikki was on a heavier fuel load and in front. Thanks for the correction. |
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| Norbert | May 15 2008, 08:30 AM Post #24 |
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No, unless they are in the same team and you are deliberately attempting to make a serious change to the outcome of the race, or someting that would bring the sport into disrepute - like swapping the lead cars over 50 yards from the finish line..... |
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| AndyW76 | May 15 2008, 11:45 AM Post #25 |
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I find this post rather vindictive. It is out of order to "wish" for a driver to crash. As to your point about relative speed between Lewis and Heikke. I think they are closely matched with nothing to choose between them. To cite Turky as evidence of Heikke being faster than Lewis is to not look at the facts clearly. Lewis qualified on the hard tyre because he was having problems with the soft tyres, heikke used the soft tyres. Of course he would have got a better lap. Also, I believe that, by qualifying results, Hamilton is leading Heikke 3 to 2. You can check if you don't believe me. http://www.grandprix.com/f12008/races.html |
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| Brave_Lee_Flea | May 15 2008, 12:23 PM Post #26 |
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I agree with almost all you say here. However since Lewis was unable to get a fast lap on the soft tyres because they are unsuited to his driving style he would likely have been slower on the soft tyres than he was on the hard. It is wrong to then conclude that because Heikki was using the soft tyres that "Of course he (heikki) would have got a better lap." Lewis used the tyres that, given his driving style, allowed him to do the fastest lap that he could. So did Heikki. Heikki (on this occasion) was quicker. |
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| AndyW76 | May 15 2008, 12:48 PM Post #27 |
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OK, may be I phrased it badly, Lewis got the best lap he could in the circumstances but Heikke got a better on, though their postitions could have been reversed if the circumstances had been different. |
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| FlutterBy | May 15 2008, 03:14 PM Post #28 |
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I'm just wondering if Hamilton was sandbagging during quali to bag the clean side of the track.. (I was mid-channel during quali and haven't watched the recording yet.) |
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| Rob | May 15 2008, 03:23 PM Post #29 |
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That would only work if you knew what time everyone else was going to do. |
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| FlutterBy | May 15 2008, 03:50 PM Post #30 |
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I'll watch the recording over the w/e and see if Hamilton had that opportunity, eg. fairly late on in the session. |
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