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| AndyW76 | Aug 29 2007, 12:18 PM Post #31 |
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Stig lets not forget Brundle, Warwick, Winkelhock (Manfred) and Bellof. Great in sports cars, OK(ish) in F1. Though Belloffs and Winkelhocks deaths put paid to F1 drivers racing other series. |
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| safc_fan89 | Aug 29 2007, 12:26 PM Post #32 |
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Stig, if you cap development completely and stop development beyond the first race, then goodbye to F1. It's very well saying the cars should be equal, but if everything was equal, I am 100% sure I would lose the passion I have for F1. The fact that everyone designs their own car, everyone spends crazy amounts of money just to improve by 0.1 seconds, the fact that if a team wants to be successful they have to work extremely hard...that's what separates it from any other single seater series. I'd hate to see F1 become a one-car series. Plus, point about driving in other series'. Can you explain why F1 drivers should? Maybe they just don't want to. Nothing about being scared of not doing well. They have won series, in some cases hammered the other drivers (Hamilton for example) in order to get to F1. They have nothing to prove. I still don't think you understand the demands of modern F1. It's totally different to F1 from the 1960s. Taking part in a touring car series has nothing like the demands of taking part in F1. Drivers are also allowed a break. And please, please, give a good reason for your hate of F1 drivers. Why do you think they are all rubbish drivers? I detect major jealousy. |
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| safc_fan89 | Aug 29 2007, 12:29 PM Post #33 |
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With all due respect, I think that is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever read on this forum. Do you think the drivers enjoy driving cars which are almost impossible to overtake in? In 2 consecutive press conferences, Raikkonen has commented on how modern F1 racing is dull. Not his fault. The cars' faults. If you can't see that, and decide to instead bash the drivers, then I feel sorry for you. Easy sport? You go and get yourself a seat then. No practice, get yourself a seat and win the title. If you think it is easy you will win every race. Good luck. |
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| dcoulthard19 | Aug 29 2007, 12:43 PM Post #34 |
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Couldn't have said that better myself And the other thing if you cap car development at the beginning of the season what happens if one team is one second ahead at the first race? They will be 1 second ahead all season making this rule proposal an even bigger load of rubbish. Development throughout the season is what makes the sport unique, F1 shouldn't just be a jazzed up GP2 series. |
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| dcoulthard19 | Aug 29 2007, 12:46 PM Post #35 |
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Again, I couldn't have that better myself. F1 drivers take part in loads of motorsports to get to F1, they don't just go straight in there and are fast out of the box. Also people really need to understand how fit you have to be to take part in a F1 race, its the equivalent of running a marathon, in places, like Malaysia with all the humid conditions the demands are even higher. |
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| The STIG | Aug 29 2007, 01:08 PM Post #36 |
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Some drivers take part in loads of series to get to F1. others get their opportunites on a plate. There is no excuse for going straight from F3 to F1! yet several drivers have done just that. I maintain my view that F1 drivers are too reliant upon their car's technology. Maybe drivers like Coulthard and Barrichello are less reliant upon it. Put an F1 car in a machine which fights back like a Le Mans Prototype, and they'll flail around like a goldfish in a frying pan. Traction control takes away the fine control of the throttle and the clutch. Semi automatic gearboxes removes the need for co-ordination (I've nothing against paddles, but at least have a proper clutch!), power steering means that the cars steer easier than my little Peugeot. The cars even prevent the drivers from speeding in the pit lane, so the drivers can't even tell how fast they're going without electronics! Is that right? Surely F1 should be more of a challenge than driving to the shops. the only factor which determines wether you get a F1 seat or not is money. Come to that that's the only factor which determines wether you get a race licence in the first place! |
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| Norbert | Aug 29 2007, 01:14 PM Post #37 |
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Right. F1 is easy. Also, F1 cars can be driven by monkies. Both your comments. Therefore, you can be F1 champion next year, because as best I can tell, you think you're better than a monkey. Or maybe not......
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| Norbert | Aug 29 2007, 01:18 PM Post #38 |
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I believe that Mr Stig has forgotten the F1 drivers have driven things other than F1 cars before they got hired, most of which don't have TC, PAS etc. But because F1 drivers don't take part in races at farmyards like most of the tracks he goes rag-waving at, it makes them inferior and untalented. Let's put him and Michael Schumacher/Fernando Alonso/Nigel Mansell in a go-kart and see who looks like they're flailing about like said goldfish. Not the ones who can add WDC to their reportoire..... |
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| The STIG | Aug 29 2007, 02:17 PM Post #39 |
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What a good idea! Be sure to include Lewis in the kart race... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l55ENjwBX-Y As to "Tracks like farmyards" I strongly suggest you visit one such track to see how wrong you are. With the exception maybe of Silverstone - which actually does have a farmyard as part of the circuit complex (hence the corner called Farm). And I have not said anything about drivers driving anything before F1 - but during their time in F1. Certainly they have. and also certainly some of the F1 drivers of now have missed out a few vital steps in their path. |
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| The STIG | Aug 29 2007, 02:18 PM Post #40 |
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Yes, I have said that. Lend me a few thousand pounds and I'll have a go and see what happens. Not going to happen is it? Actually, it wasn't me who came up with the "Monkies" quote Blame Niki Lauda, and Nigel Mansell - both Drivers who could actually drive - for that http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn41...08/ai_n12850958 |
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| Startline Ed | Aug 31 2007, 06:48 PM Post #41 |
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This is a particularly ill-informed retort Norbs as Stig does not to my knowledge do proper grass roots motorsport (i.e. on grass) and these are usually run in fields rather than farm yards. Also its flag not rag. Club and national motorsport frequently offers larger grids and better racing than F1 and I must agree with Stig that F1 cars are easy to drive. However that is up to a point, once you start pushing it in an F1 car you need to be very fit to stand up to the physical exertion, also in order to squeeze the last 10ths out of the car you need talent and experience. Therefore, in conclusion don't knock motorsport at any level unless you have experienced it and also driving any race car requires talent in order to get the most from the car. Right I'll and
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