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EXPLAINING 'PITLANEGATE'
Topic Started: Aug 20 2007, 08:02 PM (675 Views)
bricon
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First off appologies for bringing this up again and/or if this article has already been discussed. Mark Hughes who writes the following article appears to have a reasonable explaination of the dynamics that went on during qualifying. I have seen a similar explaination before but not as full. [Mark Hughes on th ITV Formula 1 website]:

http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type=General&PO_ID=40334

The bottom line here is that Lewis tried to ruin Alonso's qualifying and an infuriated Alonso tried to do the same back. In my view as Dennis said, Lewis caused the whole situation, Lewis's cheating was the cause of it. If Alonso hadn't retaliated and Hamilton had gained pole, his plan succeeding, he would have done so through cheating.
And to think he looked like he was fuming at the press confrence after - and for why? - because someone thwarted his cheating plan - priceless (until the penalty was issued). And this is the lad's first season of his F1 career, wow - there's more than likely more of the same to come!!! If he doesn't get his way with things it seems he cheats or stamps his feet like after his accident!

Lewis knows that he can press the right buttons to make Alonso self-distruct - if he was leading the championship prior to this race why did he feel the need to cheat? Maybe because the cranegate plan didn't work out for him in the previous race and he felt agrieved and had to try something else.
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Alien_SAP_Fiend
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The bottom line is the stupid bloody qualifying format..

P.S. Mark Hughes is a plagiarist.
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dcoulthard19
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I see your point about the quali system Alien.

With this system the team is forced to favour one of their drivers, you can't put your drivers on the same fuel level of course because that would just be plain stupid.
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NewMrMe
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Can you tell me how he was cheating?

To cheat you have to do something against the rules. Please explain which Formula One rule he broke.
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dcoulthard19
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Lewis didn't cheat, he disobeyed Mclaren's orders so disagree with the first post in that respect.



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bricon
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Lewis went against the pre-planned procedure that would have given the two drivers parity during qualifying, Q3. This breach gave him an unfair advantage that would not have existed had the procedure been recognised by Lewis, a procedure which applied to both drivers. The party to go against a procedure that gives equity to both parties will automatically disadvantage the other party since the equity is based on both parties observing the procedure equally.In this way Lewis had gained an unfair advantage and disadvantaged Alonso through no fault of his own. Therefore imo that is how Lewis cheated in order to gain an unfair advantage over his team mate - although Alonso's reaction meant it didn't pan out as planned those actions were still carried out. Would he deliberately mess with qualifying like this to disadvantage himself, probably not. The article seems contain all the necessary info for this view point .
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dcoulthard19,Aug 20 2007
08:46 PM
Lewis didn't cheat, he disobeyed Mclaren's orders so disagree with the first post in that respect.

That is my point.

Technically that is not cheating, as he didn't brake any rules.
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Rob
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Gotta disagree with you bricon. Lewis did not cheat as he did not brake any FIA rules. If he went against the team, it would have been up to them to hold him up. The problem is Alonso held up Lewis, it may have been on team orders, but what Alonso did was still wrong. If the team wanted punish Lewis, they just should have put his car on the jacks, and left him there.
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bricon
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Rob,Aug 20 2007
09:24 PM
Gotta disagree with you bricon. Lewis did not cheat as he did not brake any FIA rules. If he went against the team, it would have been up to them to hold him up. The problem is Alonso held up Lewis, it may have been on team orders, but what Alonso did was still wrong. If the team wanted punish Lewis, they just should have put his car on the jacks, and left him there.

I'm venturing the point that he cheated his team mate by unfairly disadvantaging his team mate regardless of the FIA
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I think it was a team matter, not one for the FIA or stewards to get involved in. But maybe Hamilton will now realise that Alonso will do anything to try and win. I wouldn't want to be in the Mclaren garage the next time they are alongside each other because it will end in tears.

I don't buy all this 'Lewis is innocent' bullshit. He knows what he is doing, and is anything but this friendly, smiling person that is shoved in front of the cameras.
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bricon
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Some peoples cheating = some people's 'gaining unfair advantage' = some people's 'deliberately disadvantaging' ......LOL.......


Alonso was served for the latter any how <thumbsup>
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