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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 14 2007, 02:10 PM (246 Views) | |
| Mrs Shrek | Aug 14 2007, 02:10 PM Post #1 |
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"Like many others in the pitlane I am first and foremost a fan of the sport, so I was just as fascinated as you guys by the developing rivalry between Alonso and Hamilton after qualifying in Hungary," Coulthard wrote in his column for ITV. "But a number of us inside F1 circles were also left wondering how the stewards came to decide on the punishment meted out to Alonso and McLaren. "Why, for instance, was McLaren singled out for punishment while Ferrari wasn't pulled up for failing to put fuel in Felipe Massa's Ferrari? Didn't that hamper Felipe's chances in qualifying as well? "Certainly everyone I have spoken to, both within the paddock and friends that I have outside the sport who are fans, are flabbergasted by how some of F1's rules and regulations are enforced. "It's bit difficult to follow the sport when you find there isn't really a consistent set of criteria for how penalties are applied. Link |
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| Paul_Murtagh | Aug 14 2007, 02:18 PM Post #2 |
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A few good points from DC there. Another point on the Massa thing is that when he was sitting in the pit lane he was lucky that no-one was sitting behind him waiting to pass. Otherwise we would have had a few more driver's sessions hampered by a car parked unnecessarily in the pit lane |
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| TheCompleteGuitarist | Aug 14 2007, 02:43 PM Post #3 |
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Don't Ferrari have parking privileges? I agree with DC. Someone already stated that last year when MS blocked the whole of the grid practically, there was no constructors points penalty. What is all that about? Why penalise the team when really it was a driver issue? |
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| PiquetFan | Aug 14 2007, 02:59 PM Post #4 |
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The difference between the two incidents (Massa and Alonso) is that the Ferrari sin was one of omission (simply a cock-up), but McLaren's was one of commission (the stewards held McLaren partly responsible for Hamilton being held up). I'm surprised that DC can't see the obvious difference. |
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| safc_fan89 | Aug 14 2007, 06:00 PM Post #5 |
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Well, if what Mclaren said is true, Hamilton compromised Alonso as well. Yet that wasn't visible so no penalty. I don't think Alonso should have been penalised. I'm just surprised no-one has thought of doing that before! |
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| Rob | Aug 14 2007, 06:07 PM Post #6 |
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I guess it is all the rage in F1, when a team does something wrong, show how Ferrari are evil. Lets see here, when Ferrari messed up the driver they messed up on was not able to get a good run and had to start from 14th. No outside influence other than the team messing up caused Massa's problem. McLaren actions on Alonso (holding him in the pits, if you believe that) affected another driver, the fact that it was a driver on the same team is irrelevant. |
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| safc_fan89 | Aug 14 2007, 06:25 PM Post #7 |
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If the team held him, and it was the team's fault, penalise the team not the driver. But even so, not allowing any constructor points to be scored seems pretty bizarre. Even by F1 standards. |
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| Rob | Aug 14 2007, 06:33 PM Post #8 |
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It is, and IMO the wrong decision, but I think the stewards did it because McLaren they believed McLaren lied to them. |
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| safc_fan89 | Aug 14 2007, 06:35 PM Post #9 |
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Or because they were advised by the FIA
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| Startline Ed | Aug 14 2007, 06:38 PM Post #10 |
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The odd thing is that the Steward's decisions should be consistent as it is now the same person. The main reason for bringing in the Permanent F1 Steward was to ensure consistency. |
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| dcoulthard19 | Aug 14 2007, 06:40 PM Post #11 |
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I was gob smacked by the no points for mclaren in hungary affair. Unfortunately the French F1 coverage was extremely poor and by turning on 10 minutes late I had no idea what was going on as alot had happened. I just naturally persumed that the no points punishment had a link with the spy scandal and I came back yesterday to find out that it wasn't. Very bizarre, I don't believe there was a need for that punishment at all, dare I mention the Ferrari conspiracy theories
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| Rob | Aug 14 2007, 06:43 PM Post #12 |
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Interesting note on that though, who really cares about the WCC over the WDC? I'd rather Ferrari take the WDC. IMO the WDC has more prestige
Would it make a difference if I said no? sorry about going off topic. |
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| safc_fan89 | Aug 14 2007, 07:19 PM Post #13 |
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Other than the teams? |
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| Rob | Aug 14 2007, 07:30 PM Post #14 |
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To the audience who make Bernie money. |
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| Red Andy | Aug 15 2007, 09:04 AM Post #15 |
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The thing is that we can't have a proper discussion on that anymore. Every time a decision is made that somehow favours Ferrari, and we point out how suspicious it looks, Ferrari fans just go "Yawn.....here we go again" and never actually respond to any points. Surely even a Ferrari fan can see that some of the decisions taken in the last couple of years - the mass dampers, Alonso's ludicrous penalties at Hungary and Monza last year, and now the McLaren-holding-Alonso-in-the-pit-lane-so-Lewis-Hamilton-can't-get-in-another-fast-lapgate issue - are highly suspicious to the fans and, it seems, even other competitors. |
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