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Kubica's one year F1 anniversary
Topic Started: Aug 13 2007, 08:48 PM (268 Views)
dcoulthard19
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Hungary marked 1 year since Kubica made his F1 debut.

How do you rate his first year in F1 and what do you think he can acheive in the future?


At first(in 2006) he was fast and wild and not always turning great speed into results but the last few months I have been very impressed with him, he has shown he can adapt to the new tyres and is proving very fast and consistent. Also he isn't going off the track at all, he is getting results and racking up points and turning speed and pace into results.

I thought at first he could be another Kimi in the making but lately he has shown that he could go on to be alot better than Kimi and possible acheive more than he has done so far.

I think Kubica is very exciting for F1 and a very much a future F1 world champion in my opinion.
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Rough around the edges I would say, but he is more consistent now, and he and Heidfeld look pretty evenly matched.
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Speedworx
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Kubica ia a great driver and can be a future world champion.
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I basically agree with my Sunderland supporting friend here. He and Heidfeld are nip and tuck, though I would still put Heidfeld as the better bet for a championship as he is more consistent.

However, by the time BMW build a title-contending car, that could have changed.
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A year already?! wow, well he has been really solid since his crash and has had alot of points finishes. I think he is slightly quicker than Heidfeld but he seems to make a few more errors, which is understandable in his first full season.
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Just to add to what I said earlier, I think he has the spark that Heidfeld lacks. If he and Heidfeld are both at BMW when they have a race-winning car, it wouldn't surprise me if Kubica is the one who won first.
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I think he is progressing very well.

At first he was very quick but made a lot of mistakes and was inconsistent. If you look at the last few races he has become more consistent and is starting to have the measure of Heidfeld.

I don't think you can ever really say if a driver has what it takes to become a champion until they get the chance to drive a car capable of winning a title, but he deserves to be given a chance in such a car.
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The thing about Kubica is you can see a huge difference between the 2006 Kubica and the 2007 Kubica. He has dramatically improved and has adapted to things well this year so that gives me the impression that he can improve furthur.

When you look at a driver like Kimi for example when he started in F1 he was fast but made mistakes and in 2007 he is still fast but makes mistakes.

Kubica has already got himself out of that phase after his first year so that puts him in good stead, I am not saying he won't ever make an error again but he has become consistent as well as fast very quickly.
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dcoulthard19,Aug 14 2007
12:28 PM
When you look at a driver like Kimi for example when he started in F1 he was fast but made mistakes and in 2007 he is still fast but makes mistakes.


Like Alonso then....
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Personally I think Kubica is overrated, he's good but will never be a top drawer driver (just my opinion).

He made a poor start to his career in 2006, with a woeful debut getting lapped by Heidfeld and then had 1 good race and 4 poor ones. He was very impressive in the 2 races after his big crash but I think Heidfeld is a significantly better driver. Kubica isn't consistent enough, the points standings reflect this.
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Rams,Aug 14 2007
04:48 PM
Personally I think Kubica is overrated, he's good but will never be a top drawer driver (just my opinion).

He made a poor start to his career in 2006, with a woeful debut getting lapped by Heidfeld and then had 1 good race and 4 poor ones.  He was very impressive in the 2 races after his big crash but I think Heidfeld is a significantly better driver.  Kubica isn't consistent enough, the points standings reflect this.

Yes but in the first 3 races Kubica had problems in every race whereas Heidfeld had none. Thats why there is a gap in the standings. Last year Kubica was impressive, he got that podium in Monza with a flat spotted tyre. In the other races you speak of such as Brazil the car just wasnt quick enough for points, you seem to forget last season it was only the 6th quickest car (toyota was quicker) so to score high points regularly was difficult, also you cant forget that Heidfeld slammed into the side of Liuzzi whereas Kubica kept it clean and trouble free. In Hungary he made several mistakes but so would any rookie if their first race was in the rain, he outqualified Heidfeld in his first quali session. In Japan he was much quicker than Heidfeld but was behind because he went off early on but almost passed him down the straight at one point and in China he was actually lying in 4th until he was told to pit for dries far to early which cost him strong points.

I think Kubica even in his first season was as quick if not quicker than Heidfeld, if a bit more prone to mistakes. I thought these points would be fairly obvious if you watched carefully.
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DavidColthard II,Aug 14 2007
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Yes but in the first 3 races Kubica had problems in every race whereas Heidfeld had none. Thats why there is a gap in the standings. Last year Kubica was impressive, he got that podium in Monza with a flat spotted tyre. In the other races you speak of such as Brazil the car just wasnt quick enough for points, you seem to forget last season it was only the 6th quickest car (toyota was quicker) so to score high points regularly was difficult, also you cant forget that Heidfeld slammed into the side of Liuzzi whereas Kubica kept it clean and trouble free. In Hungary he made several mistakes but so would any rookie if their first race was in the rain, he outqualified Heidfeld in his first quali session. In Japan he was much quicker than Heidfeld but was behind because he went off early on but almost passed him down the straight at one point and in China he was actually lying in 4th until he was told to pit for dries far to early which cost him strong points.

I think Kubica even in his first season was as quick if not quicker than Heidfeld, if a bit more prone to mistakes. I thought these points would be fairly obvious if you watched carefully.

I'm sorry but don't even try to claim that Kubica had a better race than Heidfeld at Hungary, Kubica was just embarassing himself that day. I don't recall Winklehock having any problems on his debut in a wet race.

I've already said he did outperform Heidfeld at Monza. Also, qualifying = 0pts.

The driver makes their own choice for tyres. He makes the wrong one, that's his mistake.

2006 (final 6 races):

Heidfeld - 10 pts
Kubica - 6pts

2007 (minus Indy):

Heidfeld - 42 pts
Kubica - 28pts

I too would've thought it was fairly obvious who the better performing driver was...
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How was Kubica embarrassing himself that day? Fisichella, Massa, Schumacher, Webber, Klien, Raikkonen and co all spun at some point. Kubica finished 7th that day.

I know which of the two will ultimately have a better F1 career. Kubica. He's improved a lot since last season and certainly has the potential to improve further. Heidfeld doesn't, he is a known quantity.
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He span off the track several times, and was lapped by Heidfeld (despite the fact Heidfeld himself made a mistake or 2). Kubica certainly does have a better future in F1, but he isn't a better driver. I really hope McLaren sign Heidfeld if Alonso moves elswhere which seems likely.
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Well, whether he is a better driver or not is opinion.
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