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***SPOILER*** San Jose: Live Race Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 29 2007, 09:27 PM (812 Views)
Red Andy
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flood1,Jul 29 2007
10:44 PM
I agree. But, they only do road courses and use ground effects to decrease the dirty aero wash. I'm interested in how that's working so I've been watching their progress.

It's certainly an interesting set of innovations, and it's a shame that it hasn't really improved the racing in the way that was expected. Personally I think there's a kind of strange appeal to oval racing, so it's disappointing that CC have moved away from that.
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Doornbos sets the fastest lap, but has to stop once more than everybody else.
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flood1
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IRL and Tony George bought all the good venues and forced them to the streets. And, IRL was once only ovals, and they've recently moved to the streets. A business competition that George is winning. IRL, NASCAR (250,000 in attendence today, and F1 (now Moto) to pay the way.
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Yeah, it seems that the politics of the split is still rumbling on, and it's Champ Car that are losing out. Will they go under in the next few years, or try to negotiate a merger, or carry on regardless?
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Doornbos is now more than 20 seconds ahead of Jani. He will need a caution if he wants to win this race, though.
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I think the end is near. George can afford to wait them out. He caused the split and I've always been pissed about it. But, IRL is now better, and Champcars will need to play with him. Like the unibomber said, "Compromise does not exist when one party is considerably more powerful."
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Doornbos pits and emerges third. Looks like fuel strategy has played a big part in the first half of the race - what can it do in the second?
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flood1,Jul 29 2007
10:58 PM
I think the end is near. George can afford to wait them out. He caused the split and I've always been pissed about it. But, IRL is now better, and Champcars will need to play with him. Like the unibomber said, "Compromise does not exist when one party is considerably more powerful."

I hope there is a merger soon, or somehow the respective merits of the two series manage to combine at some point in the future. American open-wheel racing has never recovered from the split, and the only way it can get back to competing with the likes of NASCAR is for a few people to swallow their pride and put the best interests of the sport first. And pigs may fly.
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After 60 laps, the order is Jani, Servia, Doornbos, Tracy, Power, Bourdais, Pagenaud, Heylen.
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I noticed that the guys one hand the tight turns because the ratios don't allow full lock with a half rotation of the wheel.
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See, I would never even think to look for something like that!
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Doornbos is closing on Servia. He has enough fuel to pit later than either of the two cars ahead of him.
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Jani and Servia are fighting over the lead, and Servia has just clipped the wall at the exit of the hairpin. It seems there is no lasting damage, however - but Doornbos is catching the pair of them!
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Servia goes by in the same place he tried that move the previous lap.
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Nice racing at the hairpin!
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