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| ELUSIVEJIM | Jun 14 2007, 08:30 AM Post #31 |
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LOVE the M1 Z8 Really like the look of he 3 series and think the new M3 WILL be something special. http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/208383/bmw_m3.html I really like the BMW M series but i am sorry the new M5 and 5 series looks terrible |
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| John | Jun 14 2007, 09:22 AM Post #32 |
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BMW M cars where never about pretty cloths... they have always been about Engineering, handling and performance... they reward the driver not the onlooker and in that context they have set the benchmark for the last 30 years... Some rivals use a sledgehammer to crack a nut approach... and some people love that, I'm not a fan. At the end of the day car choice will always be a personal taste... All people have a preconceived idea of what kind of person drives a certain marque and if they don't like their perceived image then regardless of whether it is a cracking vehicle they will reject it. It is fine that not everyone likes BMW's... after all I don't like a number of other Marques. Oh and BTW.................. the Z8 rocks Z8 (1) Z8 (2) Z8 (3) Z8 (4) Z8 (5) Z8 (6) Z8 (7) Z8 (8) |
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| ELUSIVEJIM | Jun 14 2007, 09:40 AM Post #33 |
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I do like the Z8 as it will be a classic but the car did not live up to the hype. I drove one when i worked for BMW and it really did not know hat it was mean to do. The car was trying to be a cruising machine but also a porsche 911. The car was flawed and 3 of the 5 cars we sold were traded in within 6 months and dropped ALOT of money. I hoped the Alpina version would be better but they made it worse. The Z8 was the perfect car if you lived in the US as it was more like a car they would drive and would love but not for British roads |
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| Norbert | Jun 14 2007, 09:43 AM Post #34 |
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And heavier, more expensive, not practical to take the kids to school in or the family out for the day, more expesnive to service, full of computerised crap to go wrong and need to be plugged into a laptop and fixed..... I'll take the nut and bolt approach - if it can't be fixed with a spanner or screwdriver, then it's too likely to go wrong! |
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| u4coffee | Jun 14 2007, 11:09 AM Post #35 |
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This is more like it!
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| John | Jun 14 2007, 11:19 AM Post #36 |
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There will always be cheaper alternatives but just because you cannot afford it does not mean it not as good... the Unimog will leave the defender behind off road... The one in the photo is the AMG version with all the bling... so will leave the Defender behind on the road as well As for the kids etc... Unimog will produce a double cab version of full closed back... in fact whatever you desire... And considering the workhorse the Unimog is and the many remote enviroments it is designed to work in I would say it is very easy to be fixed with a spanner or screwdriver, then it's a Unimog not a Land Rover so it's unlikely to go wrong as often |
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| u4coffee | Jun 14 2007, 11:31 AM Post #37 |
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Not what you'd call a looker though is it
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| Norbert | Jun 14 2007, 11:58 AM Post #38 |
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Who said I can't afford a Unimog, and more's the point, what does that have to do with it? Even if I could, why should I just because someone thinks it is better? Don't confuse price with functionality, just because something costs a bomb it doesn't mean it's instantly better than the competition. I repeat, could you take the family on holiday in a Unimog? Could you service a Unimog without having to take it to a dealer with a million computerised diagnostic machines? And I refute the fact that a Unimog would be 'better' off-road. It's much, much bigger, much heavier and I'll bet there's a hell of a lot of off-road places it wouldn't be able to go that a Landy could. Or a Jeep for that matter.... |
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| AndyW76 | Jun 14 2007, 12:58 PM Post #39 |
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A proper Landrover (not the girly free lander, or the posh range rover or the middle class disco) is still king of the off road. That's why the british army still use them. They are tough, cheap to run and with the army versions you (allegedly) only need 2 half inch (13mm) spanners to fix them (also a couple of spare parts might be useful), making them cheap and easy to service. |
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| John | Jun 14 2007, 01:14 PM Post #40 |
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| Norbert | Jun 14 2007, 02:31 PM Post #41 |
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My friend had a very old Ranger as an off road project. Almost everything on them was 1/2 inch too... If you buy anything from Solihull, always make sure you have several 13mm spanners, you can't go wrong!! |
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