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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 9 2007, 09:59 PM (422 Views) | |
| dcoulthard19 | Feb 9 2007, 09:59 PM Post #1 |
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We had this on HPL but thought that now we have had some testing and the season is approaching its worth covering again. Mclaren- I do think Hamilton will have a couple of races where he beats fernando, at silverstone perhaps? but Alonso is a two time world champion and will be faster on most weekends, but not miles ahead if you see what I mean, it will be very close on occassions. Rookie mistakes will be the main area where Hamilton loses points on Alonso I think. ALONSO Ferrari- This will be alot closer than people think, Kimi isn't settling into ferrari like I though he would and if massa can start with a bang then he could rattle kimi's cage but kimi should win in the end but it could go all the way this one, no forgone conclusion here at all. RAIKKONEN Honda- I expect this to be very one-sided, Button is growing in confidence and he seems to be the team's natural leader. I like Rubens but Button will comfortably beat rubens, even more so than last year I feel. BUTTON Renault- For me this one is the most even scrap out of the big 4. Heikki should be quick out of the traps but I just get the feeling that Fisi might produce something but then again Heikki has been ready for formula for ages and looks the part. I expect him to beat Fisi just!!!!!!! KOVALIEN BMW- Again very even, Nick will be able to rise his game and will be close to his young charger of a team mate. Nick in a very good car could really deliver, we can't underestimate him, Kubcia is very good but last season Nick kept on getting the points despite Kubica's big impression. His experience is also an advantage especially in a wet race. I can't decide, its easy to go for the up and coming young driver but Nick has alot to offer too. Ok, I will go for Kubica, just!!!!! KUBICA Red Bull- Mark is quick over a single lap(well sometimes, not all the time), but DC is better off the start line, much better race pace and finishes races. Only one outcome in my opinion. COULTHARD Toyota- Pretty even but Ralf tends to get the more points even if he isn't spectacular, I think ralf will narrowely win the team mate battle again but then lose his place in the team. R SCHUMACHER Williams- I feel Nico will do very well this year but Wurz has alot of testing experience but hasn't raced for ages but yet Nico has only been racing one year and is still a bit rusty so shouldn't be too much of a disadvantage for Wurz but I feel Nico will be the one to deliver, maybe he was a bit of a sleeping giant last year, if this year's Williams delivers Rosberg will drive it. ROSBERG TORRO ROSSO- Hurry up and confirm your lineup Berger!!!!!! Spyker- I like Albers, I think he has some pace in him but I think Sutil has far more talent and will beat him once he gets a few races under his belt. Sutil has been mighty impressive in testing. Its hard to overlook that. SUTIL. Super Aguri- Maybe the tightest in team battle on the grid, I just fancy Sato for this one, despite some of his flaws Sato is a mighty quick driver and as long as he continues his good form will beat Davidson. SATO I could be wrong but this is how I see it, there are a few close battles which are hard to call in there. |
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| Monty | Feb 9 2007, 10:20 PM Post #2 |
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I will add opinions in later but here is who i think will win the battle of the teamates in 2007. Ferrari-Raikkonen Mclaren-Alonso Renault-Kovalinen BMW-close call, but i would say Kubica Honda-go on then, Button Redbull-DC of course Williams-Rosberg Toyota-Trulli Rosso-Berger Aguri-Davidson, hewont be in the wall every weekend Spyker-Albers |
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| NewMrMe | Feb 10 2007, 12:26 AM Post #3 |
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McLaren - ALONSO. No matter how good Hamilton is a rookie is not going to beat a two time world champion in the same car. Renault - FISICHELLA. I rate Kovaleinen and I think by the end of the year he will be the quickest of the two Renaults. However I expect Fisi to have the edge at the start of the season. There will be the inevitable rookie mistakes from Kovaleinen and this in my opinion will mean Fisichella will score more points. Ferrari - RAIKKONEN. I think Massa was flattered by just how good the Ferrari was at the end of 2006. In the final four races his fastest lap was over half a second slower then Schumacher's. That isn't quick enough to trouble to trouble Kimi. Honda - BUTTON. Last year Button had the measure of Rubens. No reason to suggest that may change this year. BMW - HEIDFELD. Kubica is a star of the future but I think Heidfeld is a very underated driver. Kubica seems to take a lot of gambles (i.e. being one of the first to change to dry tyres in Hungary and China). Sometimes this will pay off but whilst he is still building up experience it will cost him more points then it gains. Toyota - SCHUMACHER. Whilst Trulli tends to have Toyotas best races Ralf is more consistent and has outscored the Italian in both their seasons together so far. Red Bull - WEBBER - I think this is the most difficult team to predict. Neither driver can afford to lose this one. If Webber beats DC that could mark the end of Coulthard's career. Webber needs to show that he deserves a chance in a competitive car. If he is beaten by DC he will not get that chance. This will be the first time that Webber has a teammate that has won Grand Prix. I think this will be an extra incentive that will make him the hungrier of the two drivers which will be the deciding factor between them. Williams - ROSBERG - He has bags of talent and now he has a seasons experience. This should give him the edge on Wurz. Spyker - ALBERS. I think he is a very underated driver. Super Aguri - SATO. For Davidson's rookie F3 season his teammate was Sato. Sato had the edge then. History to repeat itself. |
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| Red Andy | Feb 10 2007, 09:33 AM Post #4 |
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Renault: FISICHELLA. Kovalainen will be fast, but I have a strange feeling Fisi might pull something out of the bag this year - if he doesn't, his career is over. Ferrari: MASSA. It will be far closer than people expect; Massa has the benefit of familiarity with the team and is (now) a proven race winner. I think he will have the advantage at least at the start of the season, and it will prove difficult for Kimi to catch up. McLaren: ALONSO. Hamilton may be good, but many people have shone in the lower formulae and gone on to do little in F1. Furthermore, even if he is good at the wheel of an F1 car, he still has to beat a two-time world champion in the same machinery - and I don't see that happening. Honda: BUTTON. It will be much closer than last year, but Button will still have the advantage; although I don't feel Honda will be as strong overall this year as last. BMW: HEIDFELD. This will be a close one, but Heidfeld's experience will outweigh Kubica's (arguably greater) talent. I can see a few rookie errors in Kubica's first full season. For the record, I rate Kubica very highly but don't expect too much of him in the early part of his career. Toyota: TRULLI. Ralf will fall out of favour with the Toyota management and this may very well affect his driving. Jarno is extremely quick over one lap and if Toyota can deliver a half-decent car, he will do well. Red Bull: WEBBER. DC and Webber are very close in terms of overall performance, but I feel that Webber's superior pace in qualifying will give him the edge. Williams: ROSBERG. Wurz is a proven racer, but having been a test driver for so long will inevitably mean that his racecraft is a bit rusty. I expect to see fewer rookie errors from Rosberg this year - and hopefully the Williams will be a better car! Toro Rosso: Assuming the lineup is the same as last year, LIUZZI. He just seems to be a far, far better racer than Speed, and I imagine his racecraft will have improved this season as well. Spyker: ALBERS. Having seen Sutil race in A1GP, I rate him quite highly, but Albers' experience will pay off for him and he will be the top man at Spyker this season. Super Aguri: SATO; he has the experience and Davidson never really impressed me in his three F1 races so far (admittedly not in world-beating machinery). We saw a different Sato last year - a less erratic one - and if he can keep that up he may well spring a surprise for Super Aguri. |
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| NewMrMe | Feb 10 2007, 09:51 AM Post #5 |
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I will add Toro Rosso on the assumption of Liuzzi and Speed. In my opinion SPEED - He made a big improvement over the course of last year. In the fast half of 2006 Liuzzi beat Speed 8-1 in qualifying and 3-1 in races that both finished. In the second half Speed had the edge 5-4 in qualifying and 3-2 in races that both finished. |
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| ELUSIVEJIM | Feb 10 2007, 11:58 AM Post #6 |
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Mate i think you are just spot on with your predictions but i would maybe tip Kubica to get the better of Heidfield but as you have pointed out it will be close. Last point is i totally agree with you on Massa as i really feel he was the driver who improved the most last year and with a full season under his belt and being use to the Bridgestone tyres i can see him having more points at the end of the season than Kimi and maybe even be in with a title chance. If the Mclaren can take there form from testing to the first race i can not see anyone beating Alonso. |
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| Monty | Feb 10 2007, 12:23 PM Post #7 |
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I agree with this great point, i dont think Massa improved that much also. At the start of the season when the car wasnt great he was consistently off the road and making mistakes, he was really flattered by the incredible performance of the Ferrari just about anyone in the grid could have won in it. The car was so stable and glued to the track that he never had the oppurtunity to throw it in the wall. I think if ferrari struggle at the start of the season it wouldnt surprise me at all if he starts throwing it off the road again.
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| blackdog | Feb 10 2007, 02:20 PM Post #8 |
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Lets see ... McLaren - Alonso comfortably, but that doesn't mean that Hamilton won't impress. Ferrari - Raikkonen. Massa will do ok but he's not in the same league. Renault - Kovalainen. Fisi will be on the scrapheap by the end of the year. Honda - Button, by an increased margin. Bye bye Rubens. Toyota - Trulli, but if they start winning expect both drivers to be sacked. BMW - Kubica, just. Heidfeld is still better than most people think though. Williams - Rosberg. Never rated Wurz, but he might be more consistent than Nico. Red Bull - I'll sit on the fence here I think. Toro Rosso - Liuzzi, but the jury's out on both drivers still. Spyker - Sutil. Albers didn't really assert himself over Monteiro, who's a journeyman. Aguri - Sato; come on, who's going to get all the best equipment? |
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| Paul_Murtagh | Feb 10 2007, 06:04 PM Post #9 |
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McLaren - Alonso. Although Hamilton has great talent the experience of Alonso should shine through and possibly take him to another championship Renault - Kovalainen. Heikki will want to prove he is an able replacement for Alonso and could spell the beginning of the end for Fisichella Ferrari - Massa. Surprising choice there but I feel Massa can build on his improvements last season and Kimi could take time to adjust to the team Honda - Button. Button seems to be building the team around him and Rubens is on a downward spiral I think even though he can still produce results BMW Sauber - Kubica. Closest team battle on the grid. There will be nothing between them but I feel Kubica can edge it in the end Toyota - Schumacher. Trulli's race craft is still questionable, whereas if Ralf has the car and is in the mood he can produce good results now and again Red Bull - Coulthard. Despite being the oldest driver on the grid DC can still do it. Webber is fast in qualifying but gets involved in too many incidents Williams - Rosberg. Both drivers will be good and Wurz should be fast but Rosberg should be better after a full season behind him Toro Rosso - Liuzzi. Speed is a good driver but Liuzzi has more natural talent I feel Super Aguri - Sato. Davidson is an excellent driver, but if Sato can keep it out of the gravel he can be very fast as he proved in Brazil last season Spyker - Albers. Albers has far more experience than Sutil and basically has the team built around him |
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