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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 19 2006, 08:07 PM (309 Views) | |
| HailCaeser | Mar 19 2006, 08:07 PM Post #1 |
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did anyone see the movement of the ferrari wings during the race
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| Lord Tau | Mar 19 2006, 10:08 PM Post #2 |
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There was a protest signed which would have been put into effect had Ferrari beaten them all with respect to their flexi-wings. The only teams that did not sign up were Ferrari (obviously) and Red Bull (because they use Ferrari's engines, ergo Red Bull = Ferrari's bitch - but that's another story - don't get me started!!) But this doesn't make sense. Surely, if they are illegal wings, they should have filed a protest regardless of the results. They are either illegal or they are not. You can't file a protest because somebody beat you - that's just silly. |
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| HailCaeser | Mar 19 2006, 10:14 PM Post #3 |
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wonder who the other 2 teams that have dodgy wings are |
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| Norbert | Mar 19 2006, 10:17 PM Post #4 |
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McLaren and Renault also have their wings under review according various sources..... Yes, Ferrari's front wing was definitely suspect, and the rear wobbled a bit too, but look at the footage of the cars on the straight, there were more 'wobblers' than not according to my eyes.... |
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| Norbert | Mar 19 2006, 10:20 PM Post #5 |
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You can protest whoever and whatever, whenever. Usually accompanied by a fee in US$. And people only care about what they perceive to be cheating if it affects them.... |
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| Pannywagon | Mar 20 2006, 01:33 PM Post #6 |
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I watched with interest the on board shots from the Ferrari and that front wing looks really naughty. It looks like there is a rubber join between the top wing and nose, a join that is supposed to flex. I personally think Ferrari designed the wing to do that, and even built in a flexible connection to ensure it happened. Can somebody please tell me exactly what the regs say, because if a wing that is designed to move like that is illegal then Ferrari deserve a bit of BAR Honda's medicine. You note that DESIGNED is the key word. If it is an error then Ferrari should still face a penalty, but not as harsh as if they had cheated on purpose. |
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| HailCaeser | Mar 20 2006, 01:37 PM Post #7 |
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when it got to high speed the wing moved away from the nose of the car also the rear wing's top element lowerer at high speed |
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| HailCaeser | Mar 20 2006, 01:47 PM Post #8 |
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look at this thread i have started regulations you could say the ferrari wing is a sprung part |
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| timmadigan | Mar 20 2006, 02:02 PM Post #9 |
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The SpeedTV folks were looking at it and David Hobbes and co. thinks it is a dowel holding it on, which means it could pull away under speed. They weren't too sure if it was illegal (and they are definately NOT ferrari fanatics), but they thought that it was at least against the spirit of the rule. And there were some disagreements over the rear wing, but definately felt Renault had no place to complain. |
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| HailCaeser | Mar 20 2006, 02:04 PM Post #10 |
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there are actually alot of flexing and moving body parts ie mirrors on the renault bouncing etc |
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| timmadigan | Mar 20 2006, 02:57 PM Post #11 |
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ALL parts are going to move somewhat under that speed (and pressure). The rules just imply (since they are not that clear) that the parts can't be built with springs or be spring-loaded for flexibility. |
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| MP4/4 | Mar 21 2006, 04:17 PM Post #12 |
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The other two teams are Mclaren and BMW both subject to flexible rear wings. In Ferrari's defence the wings did pass the FIA flexibility tests they were subject to and were just pushing the limits of the rules (The basic aim of any F1 team). As far as my understanding of the situation gos Ferrari are going to bring modified front and rear wings to Melbourne that should bring an end to the contreversy. |
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| MP4/4 | Mar 21 2006, 04:44 PM Post #13 |
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I've just read on Autosport.com that both BMW and McLaren have made the minor changes that were asked of them. Apparently niether were breaking the rules but were asked verbally to make minor changes by the FIA. Even more interesting is that Ferrari are claiming that they won't make any changes to their wings and have denied reports that Ross Brawn had agreed to make such changes in Malaysia. Could all kick-off in Melbourne. |
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| Lex | Mar 22 2006, 04:53 AM Post #14 |
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Isn't this a similar point to the Michelin tyre debate a couple of years ago when suddenly Ferrari were coming out second best and they chose to complain about the Michelin tyres expanding too much and giving an unfair advantage? |
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