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What would you change in F1
Topic Started: Mar 16 2006, 11:27 AM (677 Views)
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Every motorsport board seems to have a thread like this. So I thought I'd start one here :)

So What would you change, if anything to make F1 better?
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Pit stops, abolish them. Bring back ground effects. Get rid of driver aids
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insideline,Mar 16 2006
11:32 AM
Pit stops, abolish them. Bring back ground effects. Get rid of driver aids

You mean have last yers tyre rules and get rid of re-fueling?
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yeah, that about sums it up
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insideline,Mar 16 2006
11:44 AM
yeah, that about sums it up

not sure about the tyres <erm> But with you 100% about re-fueling

What about quali?
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The tyre companies managed for years to build competitive tyres, without problem, push tham and they can do it again.
As for Timed practice, lets make it timed practice again. 1 hour Friday 1 hour Saturday
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insideline,Mar 16 2006
11:47 AM
The tyre companies managed for years to build competitive tyres, without problem, push tham and they can do it again.
As for Timed practice, lets make it timed practice again. 1 hour Friday 1 hour Saturday

Id love to see the old timed practice back again :)
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So would I, as long as the drivers got out when the pit lane opened and someone was on track for the whole hour. Which would mean that the drivers could have as many Q tyres as they needed. This driving around to burn fuel off to refuel again is just stupid
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Big thumbs up to the two timed-practice sessions, and let's have the warm-up on the morning of the race back. It was always interesting to see the difference between the balls-to-the-wall qualifying, and then the times in race-trim. Definitely ban refuelling.

I think that the pit-stops in their current guise have made the races too formulaic - much like most limited overs cricket matches. Having said that, some of the races where cars have been on completetly different strategies have been exciting - I'm thinking of the race at Hungary where Schumacher reeled off a number of very fast laps.

Obviously I would hope that a situation can be reached where there is greater ability to overtake. I'm not saying that F1 should be like the bikes, but one would like to feel that the top four can change positions on the track. It seems as though this may be coming about, as Button was able to pass Montoya twice over the weekend.
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insideline,Mar 16 2006
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So would I, as long as the drivers got out when the pit lane opened and someone was on track for the whole hour. Which would mean that the drivers could have as many Q tyres as they needed. This driving around to burn fuel off to refuel again is just stupid

The fuel burnoff is stupid!!

your right about needing activity on track for the full session
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I think bringing back ground effect in this day and age would be overly dangerous. I read an article written by one of the leading designers who reckons that if ground effect and turbo's hadn't been banned, the cars would average 200mph around Silverstone and top 300mph. Given the huge downforce and enormous power output in the 80's, I would find it hard to argue the latter figure, although I assume they mean the old Silverstone layout. Pit stops are also partly for safety. Having 45 gallons of fuel inside an F1 car is a hazardous affair, as many drivers know only too well. Berger and Lauda were lucky not to have been burned to a crisp, and while death and serious injury by fire are largely a thing of the past, we all thought death in F1 was a thing of the past, then Ratzenburger and Senna dies on successive days....
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Norbert,Mar 16 2006
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I think bringing back ground effect in this day and age would be overly dangerous. I read an article written by one of the leading designers who reckons that if ground effect and turbo's hadn't been banned, the cars would average 200mph around Silverstone and top 300mph. Given the huge downforce and enormous power output in the 80's, I would find it hard to argue the latter figure, although I assume they mean the old Silverstone layout. Pit stops are also partly for safety. Having 45 gallons of fuel inside an F1 car is a hazardous affair, as many drivers know only too well. Berger and Lauda were lucky not to have been burned to a crisp, and while death and serious injury by fire are largely a thing of the past, we all thought death in F1 was a thing of the past, then Ratzenburger and Senna dies on successive days....

OK then we'l limit them to 40 gallons of fuel ;-)
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~ Get rid of fuel stops

~ Get rid of all tracks that are impossible to overtake on (even Monaco)

~ Allow as many teams as possible to enter, reintroduce prequalifying.

~ Change aero rules so they allow cars to overtake on EVERY track, not just a select few

~ Get rid of the stupid 3rd part to qualifying. It won't be long before environmentalists start protesting, and I wouldn't blame them. What a waste of fuel.
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Norbert,Mar 16 2006
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I think bringing back ground effect in this day and age would be overly dangerous. I read an article written by one of the leading designers who reckons that if ground effect and turbo's hadn't been banned, the cars would average 200mph around Silverstone and top 300mph. Given the huge downforce and enormous power output in the 80's, I would find it hard to argue the latter figure, although I assume they mean the old Silverstone layout. Pit stops are also partly for safety. Having 45 gallons of fuel inside an F1 car is a hazardous affair, as many drivers know only too well. Berger and Lauda were lucky not to have been burned to a crisp, and while death and serious injury by fire are largely a thing of the past, we all thought death in F1 was a thing of the past, then Ratzenburger and Senna dies on successive days....

Norbert, How much more dangerous is it to refuel in a confined pit box, with the public right above it? As for the top speed, with Turbos and Ground effect, yes I agree, but we don't have turbos now, A cossie in the late 70's was still producing around 700BHP, so there isn't much difference between now and then as far as BHP is concerned. Ontop of that, with full ground effects, you don't need a front wing, which inevitably means that you can follow the car in front very closely
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F1 is so much safer now. When you look at the cars from the early 1990s, it makes me wonder how there were no fatalities during F1 races for 12 years, or whatever it was.

One other thing I'd ban...asphalt runoff areas. bring back gravel traps, where if a driver made a mistake they are either out or lose a lot of time.
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