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“I sometimes say that in my last life maybe I was Chinese.”
Topic Started: Aug 8 2018, 04:01 PM (232 Views)
Jolly
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http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/08/sen-dianne-feinsteins-ties-china-go-way-deeper-alleged-office-spy/
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Larry
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Further showing herself to be a blithering idiot. Shes saying she believes in reincarnation, which has to be about 20 kinds of stupid. But at least it explains why she attacked that woman over her "religioys dogma"...

This woman has always been an idiot.
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Jolly
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Notice how little this story has been played up in the media...Almost like it doesn't exist.
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George K
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Jolly
Aug 10 2018, 05:22 AM
Notice how little this story has been played up in the media...Almost like it doesn't exist.
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Jolly
Aug 10 2018, 05:22 AM
Notice how little this story has been played up in the media...Almost like it doesn't exist.
Maybe because the events happened five years ago?
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Aug 10 2018, 06:45 AM
Jolly
Aug 10 2018, 05:22 AM
Notice how little this story has been played up in the media...Almost like it doesn't exist.
Maybe because the events happened five years ago?
Or maybe he was still working with Democrat congressmen last year?
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If that's so, then it's reprehensible. However, since the story just showed up a few days ago, maybe arranging his ouster is still in progress? If Diane just fired him way back when and no charges were filed, there may be a problem with violating his civil rights if it's not handled right?

:shrug: Dunno.
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Explain the Chinese spy, Sen. Feinstein
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Imagine if it emerged that the Republican chairman of the House or Senate intelligence committee had a Russian spy working on their staff. Think it would cause a political firestorm? Well, this month we learned that Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) had a Chinese spy on her staff who worked for her for about 20 years, was listed as an “office director” on payroll records and served as her driver when she was in San Francisco, all while reporting to China’s Ministry of State Security through China’s San Francisco Consulate. The reaction of the mainstream media? Barely a peep.

Feinstein acknowledged the infiltration but played down its significance. “Five years ago the FBI informed me it had concerns that an administrative member of my California staff was potentially being sought out by the Chinese government to provide information,” Feinstein said in a statement — which means the breach took place while Feinstein was heading the Intelligence Committee. But, Feinstein insisted, “he never had access to classified or sensitive information or legislative matters” and was immediately fired. In other words: junior staffer, no policy role, no access to secrets, quickly fired — no big deal.

But it is a big deal. I asked several former senior intelligence and law enforcement officials how serious this breach might have been. “It’s plenty serious,” one former top Justice Department official told me. “Focusing on his driver function alone, in Mafia families, the boss’s driver was among the most trusted men in the crew, because among other things he heard everything that was discussed in the car.”

A former top CIA clandestine officer explained to me what the agency would do if it had recruited the driver of a senior official such as Feinstein. “We would have the driver record on his phone all conversations that Feinstein would have with passengers and phone calls in her car. If she left her phone, iPad or laptop in the car while she went to meetings, social events, dinners, etc., we would have the driver download all her devices. If the driver drove for her for 20 years, he would probably would have had access to her office and homes. We would have had the source put down an audio device in her office or homes if the opportunity presented itself. Depending on the take from all of what the source reported, we would use the info to target others that were close to her and exhibited some type of vulnerability.”

“In short,” this officer said, “we would have had a field day.”

It seems improbable that Feinstein never once discussed anything sensitive in her car over a period of years. But let’s assume that Feinstein was extraordinarily careful and never discussed any classified information in front of her driver or on any devices to which he had access. Even so, one former top intelligence official told me, “someone in that position could give an adversary a whole bunch on atmospherics and trends and attitudes which are from time to time far more important than the things we call secrets.” He added, “It’s like [having access to her] unclassified emails.” (And we all know no one ever exposes classified information on unclassified emails).

Washington is understandably focused on the threat from Russia. But according to FBI Director Christopher A. Wray, “China from a counterintelligence perspective represents the broadest, most pervasive, most threatening challenge we face as a country.” It was China, after all, that hacked the Office of Personnel Management in 2015, stealing the SF-86 security clearance forms of many thousands of executive-branch employees in the most devastating cyberattack in the history of our country. Beijing has successfully recruited FBI agents and State Department employees as spies, and has used information from U.S. informants to kill more than a dozen CIA sources inside the regime. And now, we know China recruited a high-value Senate staffer who worked in immediate proximity to the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Feinstein owes the country a detailed explanation of how she let a Chinese spy into her inner sanctum. And the media should give this security breach the same attention they would if it involved Russia and the Republicans.
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Sen. Graham asks the obvious question (start at 2:40 or so):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELNu1QPKdko



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Graham wants to know why the FBI didn’t do for Trump what they did for Dianne Feinstein:
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I’m gonna send a letter to Director Wray next week and ask him what is the policy? Why didn’t you tell president Trump that you had concerns about Carter Page? Is there a double standard here?

If this was a counter-intelligence investigation and not a criminal investigation, the FBI should have told President Trump they had concerns about Papadopoulos and Page. Why didn’t they do for Trump what they did for Feinstein?
When asked if Graham believes there should be more investigation on this, he replied:
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You better believe it! I’m saying what the hell is going on at the FBI? Why do you tell a Democrat when they hire somebody connected to China – it could happen to anybody’s office. When the FBI finds out that somebody’s working for us that may have connections to a foreign government, they should tell us…

When it comes to the Trump campaign, why didn’t they tell him about Papadopoulos and Cater Page? And at the end of the day, what has Carter Page done wrong? He’s still walking around a free man.

Here’s the point. A counter-intelligence investigation is designed to protect American institutions from infiltration. The right thing for the FBI to do is if they find somebody working for a political campaign, a bank, or any part of the government, is to inform the people in charge that this person you hired has got unsavory connections. That’s what they did for Feinstein. Why did they not do that when it came to Manafort, Gates and Papadopoulos?
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The San Francisco Gate on the incident:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Sen-Feinstein-had-a-Chinese-connection-she-13121441.php

It all happened years ago. The FBI informed Feinstein about their investigation of the driver. The FBI interviewed the driver and concluded that the driver did not pass anything sensitive to the Chinese government. Feinstein fired the driver in short order.

Why making hay of the old incident now? Only to construct false equivalence to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the investigation into the Trump campaign’s possible ties to Russia.
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Axtremus
Aug 10 2018, 12:56 PM

old incident
false equivalence

OK so 5 years makes working closely with a foreign spy an old incident.

But 15 years doesn't make a bit of locker room banter during a private conversation an old incident.

So the statute of limitations on a felony is actually less than a bit of impolite behavior.



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HOLY CARP!!!
Copper
Aug 10 2018, 01:05 PM
Axtremus
Aug 10 2018, 12:56 PM

old incident
false equivalence

OK so 5 years makes working closely with a foreign spy an old incident.

But 15 years doesn't make a bit of locker room banter during a private conversation an old incident.

So the statute of limitations on a felony is actually less than a bit of impolite behavior.



You are making false accusation. The FBI investigated and chose not to prosecute. There is no felony in the case of Diane Feinstein’s driver.
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Axtremus
Aug 10 2018, 01:16 PM
Copper
Aug 10 2018, 01:05 PM
Axtremus
Aug 10 2018, 12:56 PM

old incident
false equivalence

OK so 5 years makes working closely with a foreign spy an old incident.

But 15 years doesn't make a bit of locker room banter during a private conversation an old incident.

So the statute of limitations on a felony is actually less than a bit of impolite behavior.



You are making false accusation. The FBI investigated and chose not to prosecute. There is no felony in the case of Diane Feinstein’s driver.

No prosecution doesn't mean no felony, which is exactly the accusation.


The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Copper
Aug 10 2018, 01:18 PM
Axtremus
Aug 10 2018, 01:16 PM
Copper
Aug 10 2018, 01:05 PM
Axtremus
Aug 10 2018, 12:56 PM

old incident
false equivalence

OK so 5 years makes working closely with a foreign spy an old incident.

But 15 years doesn't make a bit of locker room banter during a private conversation an old incident.

So the statute of limitations on a felony is actually less than a bit of impolite behavior.



You are making false accusation. The FBI investigated and chose not to prosecute. There is no felony in the case of Diane Feinstein’s driver.

No prosecution doesn't mean no felony.

Innocent until proven guilty. That is the bedrock of the American criminal justice system.
No prosecution, no conviction, no felony.
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Aug 10 2018, 12:56 PM
The San Francisco Gate on the incident:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Sen-Feinstein-had-a-Chinese-connection-she-13121441.php

It all happened years ago. The FBI informed Feinstein about their investigation of the driver. The FBI interviewed the driver and concluded that the driver did not pass anything sensitive to the Chinese government. Feinstein fired the driver in short order.

Why making hay of the old incident now? Only to construct false equivalence to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the investigation into the Trump campaign’s possible ties to Russia.
Stormy Daniels happened years ago. No evidence has been offered to prove it happened anyway. She was interviewed at the time And she said it never happened. Even if it did, it only happened once, and Trump hasn't hired her since.

Why make hay of the old incident Now? Only to construct a false narrative to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the duly elected president.

As for "ties to Russia"...... Why isn't Mueller investigating the PROVEN ties Hillary had to Russia? Why isn't Meuller investigating the PROVEN ties Obama had to Russia?

And what level of idiot thought it would be a good idea to launch a coordinated act of sedition by accusing Trump of the very thing they were trying to keep the public from finding out about Hillary and obama?
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I'm stuck at the part where the FBI just let it go because "no sensitive material was passed on." The guy was working for a United States Senator and nothing?

Maybe there was nothing arrest worthy and therefore nothing prosecutable. What else are they gonna do?

I don't know. More to this than we know, I guess.
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Catseye:
I'm stuck at the part where the FBI just let it go because "no sensitive material was passed on."

Yeah, stuck is right.
"DID YOU PASS SENSITIVE MATERIAL TO YOUR CONTACTS IN CHINA??"

No.

"Well, OK then. We just wanted to be sure. Have a nice day."

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Aug 10 2018, 01:35 PM
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Catseye:
I'm stuck at the part where the FBI just let it go because "no sensitive material was passed on."

Yeah, stuck is right.
"DID YOU PASS SENSITIVE MATERIAL TO YOUR CONTACTS IN CHINA??"

No.

"Well, OK then. We just wanted to be sure. Have a nice day."


:lol2: Really!
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The article points out the plenty of “sources” from justice, cia and fbi thinks it’s a serious matter. Usually that is all it take to make front page news and become the cudgel of the left. Now Ax argues because the FBI chose not to prosecute it means nothing.

#becauseshutup
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Jolly
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Nah, nothing to it. The MSM isn't biased.

Whatever gave you that idea? ;)
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