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Best President in your lifetime
Topic Started: Jul 11 2018, 04:48 PM (218 Views)
Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Artcle:

http://www.people-press.org/2018/07/11/obama-tops-publics-list-of-best-president-in-their-lifetime-followed-by-clinton-reagan/

From Pew Research.

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Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Contrast with poll from 2014:
http://s10.zetaboards.com/The_New_Coffee_Room/topic/9058993/findpost/11139540/
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Jolly
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Nice try.
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Axtremus
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It is not a “try,” it is done.
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Copper
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Nice try.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Axtremus
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Copper
Jul 11 2018, 06:16 PM
Nice try.
Nice try yourself.
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
The only president most millennials know anything about is Obama. So your statistics are pretty much worthless.
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mshBBpVTMsk
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jon-nyc
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I’d probably be tempted to say Ford, because he did the least.
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Aqua Letifer
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I vote Diamond Joe.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Axtremus
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Larry
Jul 11 2018, 06:24 PM
The only president most millennials know anything about is Obama. So your statistics are pretty much worthless.
1. The typical millennials grew up in the Clinton years and lived the Bush43 years as adults. It is moronic to assert that most millennials know only about Obama among US Presidents.

2. Even when excluding all millennials from the statistics, Obama still ranks higher than all others except Reagan.
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Axtremus
Jul 11 2018, 08:50 PM
Larry
Jul 11 2018, 06:24 PM
The only president most millennials know anything about is Obama. So your statistics are pretty much worthless.
1. The typical millennials grew up in the Clinton years and lived the Bush43 years as adults. It is moronic to assert that most millennials know only about Obama among US Presidents.

2. Even when excluding all millennials from the statistics, Obama still ranks higher than all others except Reagan.
No, Larry's pretty much right. If you've got only three presidents under your belt and could only legally vote for one of them due to age restriction, your opinion's pretty much worth a tinker's damn.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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The question was, which president did the best job in your lifetime. You can have an opinion about that even if you're unable to vote.
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Aqua Letifer
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Catseye3
Jul 11 2018, 08:59 PM
The question was, which president did the best job in your lifetime. You can have an opinion about that even if you're unable to vote.
You can save your spare change after buying a 99˘ frosty, too, but it's going to be about as useful.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
Axtremus
Jul 11 2018, 08:50 PM
Larry
Jul 11 2018, 06:24 PM
The only president most millennials know anything about is Obama. So your statistics are pretty much worthless.
1. The typical millennials grew up in the Clinton years and lived the Bush43 years as adults. It is moronic to assert that most millennials know only about Obama among US Presidents.

2. Even when excluding all millennials from the statistics, Obama still ranks higher than all others except Reagan.
I grew up in the Eisenhower years. I didn't know a damned thing about Eisenhower. I don't think I even knew there was such a thing as a president. When Nixon was president I was an adult. I pretty much only knew "I am not a crook" and that the guy was president and he resigned. The first time I actually noticed what a president was doing was when Jimmy Carter nearly ruined the country. And I had more sense than a bus load of today's millennials. So it's pretty moronic to assert that most millennials were paying attention to Clinton or Bush. The first time most of them paid any attention was when Obama became president.

2. Actually, when you exclude all millennials from the statistics, the democrats like Obama, the republicans like Reagan. So all you've managed to do is prove what we already know - democrats like democrat presidents, republicans like republican presidents.

Now, look at the bigger picture - when the survey isn't broken down by age and party, and people are just asked who was the worst president, the majority of people say Obama was the worst president since WWII. I say he was the worst president in the history of our nation. And I'm not alone in that opinion.

Now, instead of looking at polls, look at the accomplishments. We've had 3 democrat presidents in my lifetime. Jimmy Carter almost ruined the nation. Until Obama came along, Carter was widely regarded as a disaster, the worst president ever. Then, Bill Clinton - who managed to do ok because he'd let the republicans come up with policy, then he'd get on TV and take credit for it. Then Obama, who was either the stupidest human to ever occupy the office of president, or a traitor who purposely intended to destroy America.

You can decide whether it was because he was stupid or if he did it on purpose. But you can't change the fact that he damn near destroyed the nation.
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I haven't studied all the American presidents in my lifetime in detail and of course haven't been directly influenced by their policies, but from what I know I'd say that Clinton and Reagan were the best ones so far.
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Larry
Jul 11 2018, 06:39 PM
Lol - watched the first half and it's complaining that Obama is running up the debt and calling allies in the EU free riders.
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It's a shame that they limited the selection so much. The older folks may have wanted to vote for Calvin Coolidge as their favourite president.
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Me. I have been the best president ever, of three different organizations, and of course of my own company.

True story.
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Looks like Reagan takes it in three age groups, covering ages 38 to 90. That's actually impressive.
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Jolly
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The only thing I remember about JFK, was all that news and funeral stuff messed up the cartoon schedule. LBJ, I think was horrible. Nixon was slimy, but OK. Ford was a nice guy in an empty suit. Carter was a nice guy, totally out of his depth. Reagan was my guy. Bush 41 was more competent than many give him credit for and was the first President the media managed to destroy by not reporting something accurately. Clinton (met him when he was governor) is a likeable guy who did a decent job and could have done even better if he had stayed in the middle. Bush 43 was a lot smarter than given credit for and the first President that came under constant attack by an increasing Left-wing media. Obama was a socialist, mostly ineffective, thank God. Trump is the closest thing to an outsider since Reagan and the MSM hates him passionately. The book is open on Trump.

What folks don't consider is what types of Congress these guys had to work with, of course.
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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I was in grade school when Mr. Kennedy was president.

Every student in that school knew that JFK was the greatest president of all time - no contest.

You know how your liberal friends give you the look when you (correctly) say Mr. Obama was awful?

That is nothing compared to the look you got if you even thought about saying anything bad about Mr. Kennedy in Boston.


The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Jolly
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Is the Kennedy name still magic in Boston?
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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The magic has probably diminished some due to the antics of a large group of Kennedy clan descendants.

Although I think the magic is still there. JFK is of course a saint. Many of the Kennedy clan still use their wealth to serve the public.

This is an example that is well-known in New England: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Energy_Corporation

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Citizens Energy currently provides free home heating oil for the elderly and the poor living in Massachusetts and other cold weather states.


There have been questions about shady deals with this company but so what? It is a Kennedy deal and it is a charity - let it go.


The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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