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| Trump's Attorney's Office Raided by FBI | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 9 2018, 01:36 PM (2,201 Views) | |
| Luke's Dad | Apr 9 2018, 05:45 PM Post #26 |
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Emperor Pengin
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Has he shot himself in the back of the head 5 times, yet? Oh wait, this is Trump's attorney, not Clinton's. My bad. |
| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 10 2018, 03:34 AM Post #27 |
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Cheers
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From the Times:
That would suggest it’s something other than the Stormy Daniels payoff. |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 10 2018, 03:37 AM Post #28 |
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Cheers
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By the way, Jolly should be pleased that Mr. Meuller did the right thing and turned evidence over to the FBI since this wasn’t in his remit. Looks like we don’t need to worry about him going beyond his remit after all. Good job, Mr. Mueller. |
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| Davis | Apr 10 2018, 03:43 AM Post #29 |
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Fulla-Carp
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| Klaus | Apr 10 2018, 03:43 AM Post #30 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I've become a real fan of the Trump presidency, viewed as a show. Very good and dramatic storytelling. Next up: An unexpected plot twist involving Steve Bannon, Mossad, the killing of a Mexican drug lord, and a group of necrophilist Swedes. |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Davis | Apr 10 2018, 03:46 AM Post #31 |
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Fulla-Carp
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It’s what the media discovered it needed to survive. Every day is a new episode in the serial. Watch Westworld if you want to see the future of media curation. |
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| George K | Apr 10 2018, 03:48 AM Post #32 |
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https://www.redstate.com/patterico/2018/04/10/calm-down-cohen-raid/
Excuse my ignorance, but how is a "referral" different from actually issuing the warrant? You (Jon) make it sound like Mueller had nothing to do with it, though the opposite is what I read. Had Mueller not been looking around (see 'show me the man..'), this would not have occurred. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 10 2018, 03:48 AM Post #33 |
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Cheers
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Here’s a funny thing: Cohen and Trump’s position that Trump didn’t know about the porn star payoff would mean that communications related to it aren’t protected by attorney-client privilege. |
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| Davis | Apr 10 2018, 03:53 AM Post #34 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Like I said, the lawyer is a serious dope if he hadn’t thought through all this. It’s not like some genius just thought this up, it’s pretty obvious to a first year. |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 10 2018, 03:55 AM Post #35 |
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Cheers
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It’s a huge difference. Rather than Mueller acting on his own (immense) authority, it goes to the FBI and they have to decide whether it warrants attention. By ‘they’ I mean I bunch of trump appointees. There’s no argument here that this is a witch hunt by a bunch of never trumpers. This is a bunch of trump appointees making a judgement on evidence under their noses. Also they would have been fully aware that the warrant will become among the most scrutinized in legal history. So again, multiple approvals required by Trump appointees knowing every pixel would get heavily scrutinized in courts and the press. They are clearly not investigating jaywalking on hearsay evidence. Now, pass the popcorn. |
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| Davis | Apr 10 2018, 03:57 AM Post #36 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I’ll know it’s game when Alan Dershowitz throws in the towel. |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 10 2018, 04:00 AM Post #37 |
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Cheers
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I can’t help but think of the line from All The President’s Men: “The truth is, these aren’t very bright guys, and things got out of hand.” ![]() Seriously, though, there’s no clean legal way to do something fundamentally unclean and illegal (payoff a bimbo days before an election). So you can’t really fault him for stupidity if his ultimate attempt had holes in it. |
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| George K | Apr 10 2018, 04:00 AM Post #38 |
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OK - that's what I thought. Basically it boils down to "Look what I found, is this enough to have a judge issue a warrant? Let's give it to the cops, and they'll give it to the judge." It's the same as Comey Is that right? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 10 2018, 04:08 AM Post #39 |
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Cheers
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So Cohen’s lawyer says the warrant was based ‘in part’ on a referral from Meuller’. It’s hard to say whether that part was dispositive. But I think they key point is Meuller did not make the call about whether or not to pursue this. A number of Trump appointees did. |
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| Davis | Apr 10 2018, 04:15 AM Post #40 |
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Fulla-Carp
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What’s really funny is that this was supposedly all about Russian collusion and the shaggy dog ending is sex with a porn star. That’s the America we live in. |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 10 2018, 04:17 AM Post #41 |
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Cheers
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You don’t know the ending. You (and Jolly) need to stop pretending you do. |
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| George K | Apr 10 2018, 04:27 AM Post #42 |
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Bill Clinton wept. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Mikhailoh | Apr 10 2018, 04:29 AM Post #43 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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There are an awful lot of people who want to see Trump out of office. An awful lot. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| George K | Apr 10 2018, 04:32 AM Post #44 |
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Of course there are. One bobblehead suggested that, when the Democrats take the House in November, their first order of business will be to draw up articles of impeachment. Two thoughts. 1) It will never get through the senate (Bill Clinton smiled) 2) Mr. Pence, raise your right hand... |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 10 2018, 04:32 AM Post #45 |
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God I hope not. |
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| Mikhailoh | Apr 10 2018, 04:40 AM Post #46 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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It's very much a 'be careful what you wish for' situation. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Jolly | Apr 10 2018, 05:18 AM Post #47 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Remind me to buy another case of ammo... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 10 2018, 05:41 AM Post #48 |
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Cheers
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Maybe you should wait until the evidence is in before you decide to rush the barricades for the guy. That way you can pretend it’s based on principle rather than just tribalism. |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 10 2018, 05:46 AM Post #49 |
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Cheers
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Don’t take my post the wrong way. I’d much rather have Pence in office than Trump. My lament was about useless counterproductive impeachment theatre just to throw red meat to the base. |
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| jon-nyc | Apr 10 2018, 06:17 AM Post #50 |
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Cheers
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Trump tweeted “attorney client privilege is dead” to which Preet Bharara replied “Long live the crime-fraud exception” |
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