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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 17 2018, 09:34 AM (309 Views) | |
| Klaus | Mar 17 2018, 09:34 AM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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https://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/226034-time-to-end-the-vi-emacs-debate/fulltext |
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| Chris Aher | Mar 17 2018, 10:38 AM Post #2 |
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Middle Aged Carp
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A pox on both houses. Serious violation of the KISS principle in both cases. |
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| Mikhailoh | Mar 17 2018, 11:15 AM Post #3 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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vi - ugh. Haven't used it since 1988. Emac I don't know about. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 17 2018, 11:19 AM Post #4 |
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Cheers
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Sorry, I'm way too cool to participate in such a thread. |
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| Davis | Mar 17 2018, 11:20 AM Post #5 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I understood all the words but have no idea what the piece is about.
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| Klaus | Mar 17 2018, 11:26 AM Post #6 |
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I use Emacs occasionally because there are some developer tools that are only available as Emacs plugins. I hate it, though. On the plus side, it's super-extensible, but it's a very bloated piece of software. vi is much more lightweight yet powerful. If I'd have to program in an editor on a daily basis, I might choose vi. For a novice, it's hell though because all the commands are differently from what one is used to. The most important command to remember is how to quit it:
Countless people had to manually kill vi because they didn't know how to quit it. If you are on a Mac and want some impression of vi, open a terminal window and type "vi". |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Copper | Mar 17 2018, 11:33 AM Post #7 |
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Shortstop
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I have used both as my primary editor. Of course when I was using each of them each was the best editor because my fingers just knew what to do. I seem to remember that I used Emacs after I used vi and I thought Emacs was better. At least it was better for what I was doing but I still used vi to do some things. I think it has been many years since I have used either. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Mikhailoh | Mar 17 2018, 12:20 PM Post #8 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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SPF PC was great when it came out. |
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| Copper | Mar 17 2018, 12:23 PM Post #9 |
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Shortstop
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Yes, SPF was a miracle. PF2 to split the screen, genius! |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Ballyhoo | Mar 17 2018, 01:04 PM Post #10 |
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Middle Aged Carp
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I use Emacs on a daily basis, mainly for R and TeX, and I enjoy using it. I can work much more efficiently with Emacs than with other options I've tried. I haven't tried vi.
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| Klaus | Mar 17 2018, 01:46 PM Post #11 |
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Consistency is overrated ![]() To my defense, in that other post I was talking about the beauty of the code base, not of the actual running programs. |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Ballyhoo | Mar 17 2018, 03:45 PM Post #12 |
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Middle Aged Carp
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Fair enough. Were you being sarcastic when you wrote this about email?
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| Axtremus | Mar 17 2018, 03:50 PM Post #13 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Say, has either vi or Emacs been ported to iOS or Android as an app? |
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| Klaus | Mar 17 2018, 03:54 PM Post #14 |
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You can install busybox on Android phones, which includes vi. |
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| Mikhailoh | Mar 17 2018, 03:59 PM Post #15 |
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Emacs looks ok. Just another full screen editor. |
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| George K | Mar 17 2018, 04:04 PM Post #16 |
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Finally
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Gawd, I wish I knew what the hell you guys were talking about...
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Axtremus | Mar 17 2018, 04:07 PM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Nothing important. |
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| George K | Mar 17 2018, 04:15 PM Post #18 |
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Finally
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Copper | Mar 17 2018, 06:10 PM Post #19 |
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Shortstop
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I just watched 300 for the first time tonight. How did this escape me for 12 years? An oversight. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Larry | Mar 17 2018, 06:13 PM Post #20 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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I got a phone call today from someone who said they were with Microsoft telling me my microsoft license was about to expire and that I needed to let them access my files immediately so they could update my software... I wasn't at home so it went into voicemail, but first thing in the morning I'm going to call them back and get this thing fixed.... I wonder if there's a fee. I hope they take credit cards.... |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| Axtremus | Mar 17 2018, 06:54 PM Post #21 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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That reminds me of edlin. |
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| Chris Aher | Mar 17 2018, 06:59 PM Post #22 |
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Middle Aged Carp
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Regards, Chris | |
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| Mikhailoh | Mar 17 2018, 07:02 PM Post #23 |
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Oh yeah - edlin. Gosh we’re an old bunch. |
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| Chris Aher | Mar 17 2018, 07:19 PM Post #24 |
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Middle Aged Carp
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Re edlin, out of frustration with it, I wrote myself an editor which I named (tongue in cheek) Ed for my friend and best man Ed Court, whom I worked with at the Steinway Concert & Artists dept back in the 70s. I hadn't heard from him in quite awhile but just found this: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/nytimes/obituary.aspx?n=edward-court&pid=177059900 He was one of the best piano technicians I ever knew and a really good guy. RIP Ed. ![]() Chris |
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Regards, Chris | |
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| Ballyhoo | Mar 17 2018, 10:16 PM Post #25 |
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Middle Aged Carp
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RIP Ed. |
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