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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 16 2018, 12:31 PM (193 Views) | |
| George K | Mar 16 2018, 12:31 PM Post #1 |
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https://ijr.com/2018/03/1076385-ohio-student-suspended-refusing-to-leave-classroom/ |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Rainman | Mar 16 2018, 01:03 PM Post #2 |
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Fulla-Carp
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| CTPianotech | Mar 16 2018, 01:13 PM Post #3 |
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In order to make certain all the kids who walked outside for a demonstration remained accounted for, many, if not most of the teachers were required to go outside with the students. Those students who did not wish to participate, would then be consolidated into a smaller number of classrooms, to ensure *they* remained under supervision. This particular student seemed to object to even that. In any case, that’s my guess based on events at my kids various schools. Administrations were aware that a decent number of students were going to participate in the walk-out, so they essentially made it a school-sanctioned even. In our town, they used police and any available staff to watch the kids who went outside, so the other students could just stay in class. |
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| Rainman | Mar 16 2018, 01:34 PM Post #4 |
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Same in our district. The key point was that teachers were to stay in class, while supervision by other available staff would be provided for security/safety. This 17-minute walkout was no big deal. Not sure about the next two. There seems to be considerable overt effort to use kid mobs as useful idiots for other agendas. Next week I get to participate in a forum, will be broadcast on TV locally. That will be like walking through a minefield. |
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| George K | Mar 16 2018, 01:38 PM Post #5 |
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Good point. From an article linked in the original post: ANd more here: https://www.10tv.com/article/district-post-saying-hilliard-student-suspended-over-walkout-refusal-fake
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Larry | Mar 16 2018, 05:11 PM Post #6 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 17 2018, 02:29 AM Post #7 |
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Seems like students were not compelled to protest. |
| In my defense, I was left unsupervised. | |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 18 2018, 12:21 PM Post #8 |
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Meanwhile, in rural Arkansas. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/378880-arkansas-students-punished-with-paddling-for-walking-out They say it's for leaving the premises, not for protesting. One wonders how regularly they paddle non-protesting kids for leaving the premises. |
| In my defense, I was left unsupervised. | |
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| Mark | Mar 18 2018, 12:29 PM Post #9 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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WTF? |
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___.___ (_]===* o 0 When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells | |
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| Jolly | Mar 18 2018, 12:42 PM Post #10 |
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Probably pretty often. Corporal punishment is still in place down here and students are typically given a choice of whether or not they wish to be paddled or be punished some other way. I took my licks and motored on when i was a lad. Many kids do. I don't think they were scarred for life. |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 18 2018, 12:50 PM Post #11 |
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No they probably weren't scarred. I also took my licks (that's what we called them, 'three licks'), you'll recall I was born in and partially raised in the south. But the dean always has discretion. I usually got licks for pissing him off. Usually doing something a second time after being (mildly) punished the first. I'd love to see the actual data from that school. Maybe there will be a lawsuit and it'll come out in discovery. |
| In my defense, I was left unsupervised. | |
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| Jolly | Mar 18 2018, 12:59 PM Post #12 |
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Don't think you'll see a lawsuit, unless somebody else fronts the money. The policy is in place, corporal punishment has been vetted by the courts under certain circumstances and the parents were fully informed, per school district policy. You play, you pay. Two days detention or two licks, with no reduction in grades or anything else seems to be a fair and measured punishment. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| George K | Mar 18 2018, 01:03 PM Post #13 |
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So, one kid was suspended for not following policy (staying in a study hall during the protests) and the other kids were punished for...not following policy (by not staying in class and participating in protests). And the corporal punishment was the student's preference, which was approved by the parents. Good question. I'm sure such disciplinary records exist, as you suggest. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 18 2018, 01:06 PM Post #14 |
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No, George - the kid in your link refused to go to the study hall where the non-protesters were supposed to go. |
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| Jolly | Mar 18 2018, 01:08 PM Post #15 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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I think we would have all been better off if there had been no protests during school time. That's not what kids go to school for and not why teachers are being paid. If the kids wanted to protest, meet up at school one-half hour early and have at it. |
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| George K | Mar 18 2018, 01:13 PM Post #16 |
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A distinction without a difference. He was supposed to be in one place (the study hall) and refused. The paddled ones were supposed to be in one place (the classroom) and they refused. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Mar 18 2018, 01:18 PM Post #17 |
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We certainly know that the kid in your link wasn't punished for not protesting, contrary to your thread title. We'd need some data to infer what role the AK kids' protesting played. |
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| George K | Mar 18 2018, 01:25 PM Post #18 |
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That's true. And I admitted that. He was punished for not following regulations/procedure/policy. And, I said that too. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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