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| The organic movement jumps shark | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 13 2018, 10:37 AM (315 Views) | |
| Mikhailoh | Mar 13 2018, 10:37 AM Post #1 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Organic Cheetos. Doritos too. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Jolly | Mar 13 2018, 10:44 AM Post #2 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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I always thought the organic stuff was a crock. How are you going to know? |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Axtremus | Mar 13 2018, 11:16 AM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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May be if the thing tastes or smells more like natural **** than chemical fertilizers? |
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| brenda | Mar 13 2018, 11:19 AM Post #4 |
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Aqua has taken over Ax's login. |
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“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.” ~A.A. Milne | |
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| MainerMikeBrown | Mar 13 2018, 12:56 PM Post #5 |
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Senior Carp
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This news doesn't effect me much because I rarely eat Cheetos or Doritos. |
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| Jolly | Mar 13 2018, 01:16 PM Post #6 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Nah, don't think Aqua is that ignorant. I maybe wrong but Ax doesn't strike me as the vegetable gardening type... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Riley | Mar 13 2018, 02:16 PM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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| jon-nyc | Mar 13 2018, 02:36 PM Post #8 |
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Cheers
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There's an interesting debate about organic foods. I mean, besides the one about whether it really means anything important. Among those who are into 'organic' there's a debate about how good it is when large scale producers try to go 'organic'. Some think its a great thing so that it can become more of a mass phenomenon. Others think that's somehow taints it and are really caught up in the romanticism of the small farmer. I tend to side with the former group. I don't think organic food should have a little red velvet rope around it. |
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| George K | Mar 13 2018, 02:46 PM Post #9 |
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Finally
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Okay, excuse my ignorance. What does "organic" really mean - what gives a food that badge? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Jolly | Mar 13 2018, 02:51 PM Post #10 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Do a bit of reading on what you can do to a crop and still be labeled organic. Besides, you bite into a tomato, and you can't tell if it's been hit with malathion, sevin or any other form of common insecticide. You chew on an ear of corn and you can't tell if it's been sprayed down with POST. And chew on a mouthful of green beans, and I defy you to tell me Treflan was used as a pre-emerg. If somebody is truly trying to go wholly organic, they better hope they make a lot more money on their product. Even the best organic guys are down 20% in yield vs. conventional. And it requires a butt-load more labor. In a razor thin margin biz like farming, where two bad years mean bankruptcy, you better make the most money you can, while you can. Which is why most small farms operate at a loss or go belly-up, unless there is outside income. The bank will not let you pay your note with a romantic vista... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Larry | Mar 13 2018, 02:53 PM Post #11 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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I don't grow food crops, heck, I don't even know that much about the crops I do grow... but this "organic" stuff is bull sh!t. |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| Steve Miller | Mar 13 2018, 09:30 PM Post #12 |
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Bull-Carp
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Read “Omnivores Dilemma”. Even my farmer friends like it. Everything you need to know about Organic. |
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Wag more Bark less | |
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| Klaus | Mar 14 2018, 12:03 AM Post #13 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Eating organic food is selfish. The number of people you can feed with a square mile of land is much lower for organic food. You couldn't feed 8 billion people that way. |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Steve Miller | Mar 14 2018, 12:20 AM Post #14 |
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Bull-Carp
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Not strictly true. Organic farming has issues as far as far as damage to the soil, and it’s relatively expensive. But it very nearly as efficient as traditional farming. Again, I recommend the book.. of |
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Wag more Bark less | |
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| Klaus | Mar 14 2018, 12:26 AM Post #15 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It is strictly true, as has been shown in numerous studies. |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Mar 14 2018, 03:31 AM Post #16 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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By that logic, growing anything at all without maximum yield is selfish. Farming anything without the exprss purpose of feeding as many people as possible with your product is selfish. Which isn’t true. |
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| Davis | Mar 14 2018, 03:45 AM Post #17 |
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Fulla-Carp
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if eating organic means you don’t eat junk fund, you’ve won, otherwise you wasted your money. |
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| Jolly | Mar 14 2018, 05:02 AM Post #18 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Don't worry, first time the economy tanks, half the organic guys will be out of business. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Larry | Mar 14 2018, 05:04 AM Post #19 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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https://www.acsh.org/news/2015/09/29/20-reasons-not-to-feed-your-family-organic |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Mar 14 2018, 05:05 AM Post #20 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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How old do you all think commercial organic farming is in America, and why do you think it’s supported in the farming community? |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| George K | Mar 14 2018, 05:08 AM Post #21 |
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Finally
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I dunno. Maybe because it makes more money for farmers? Really, I don't know, but I'd guess that my speculation is spot-on. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Jolly | Mar 14 2018, 05:08 AM Post #22 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Before the internal combustion engine and chemicals, I'd say most farming was organic. I don't know about "supported", but I figure I'm fixin' to find out... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Mar 14 2018, 08:17 AM Post #23 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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A lot of it started in the 40s. And it wasn’t a hipstery, health-nut kind of venture, it was commercial farmers looking for a better, cheaper, more robust way to get more yield at a better quality. So yeah, first sign of market trouble, the gimmicky crap will fall by the wayside. But organic farming has been around generations prior to today for a reason. It’s not a lefty idea the right should sneer at simply because they think it’s a lefty idea, it’s got nothing to do with that. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Mar 14 2018, 08:19 AM Post #24 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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It does make more money for farmers. But for decades prior to now, it’s not been because of the marketing. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Larry | Mar 14 2018, 08:27 AM Post #25 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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According to the research, the natural chemicals used as pesticides by "organic" farming is more toxic than the synthetic pesticides used by other farmers. It also requires more land to produce an equivalent yield, which scientists say releases more CO2 into the atmosphere than regular farming. Also, according to the science, "organic" food has no more nutritional value than the other, no more flavor, and I hate to break it to you, but it does not make farmers more money. |
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