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Topic Started: Sep 26 2017, 07:03 AM (143 Views)
Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
Words from Prager:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451742/nfl-national-anthem-controversy-players-are-more-divisive-trump
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
And some further thought from The Federalist:

https://thefederalist.com/2017/09/25/nfl-protests-are-the-dead-end-of-resistance-culture/
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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Horace
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HOLY CARP!!!
I'd like to think the nfl protests are too stupid even for normal people. In my younger years when I saw stupid social sh!t I assumed people were saying the "right" things but actually knew better.

But now I'm coming to terms slowly with the fact that human thought, especially as it applies to social issues of the day, is mostly programming. So they really do "think" what they say, for whatever definition of "thought" that is. I mean, they do feel feelings based on these thoughts. I mean, it's all real, to them.

Luckily, the social issues of the day don't actually come up much in practice. So they can think their stupid thoughts and feel their stupid feelings and it's business as usual.

But boy oh boy and I comfortable in my current dismissal of the whole mess, as a sort of mass hysteria.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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Horace
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HOLY CARP!!!
Btw, Prager and Adam Carolla do a podcast together. I haven't listened but I assume it's pretty good. I'm not surprised that he and Carolla get along pretty well.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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Catseye3
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But now I'm coming to terms slowly with the fact that human thought, especially as it applies to social issues of the day, is mostly programming.


Maybe. But then there's this:

"If you want someone to see an issue rationally, you just show them the facts, right? No one can refute a fact. Well, brain imaging and psychological studies are showing that, society wide, we may be on the wrong path by holding evidence up as an Ace card.

Neuroscientist Tali Sharot and her colleagues have proven that reading the same set of facts polarizes groups of people even further, because of our in-built confirmation biases -- something :rightarrow: we all fall prey to, equally. In fact, Sharot cites research from Yale University that disproves the idea that the social divisions we are experiencing right now -- over climate change, gun control, or vaccines -- are somehow the result of an intelligence gap: smart people are just as illogical, and what's more, they are even more skilled at skewing data to align with their beliefs."

From a review of The Influential Mind: What the Brain Reveals About Our Power to Change Others, by Tali Sharot.

"I shall now begin to speak of purple, which exceeds all the colors that have so far been mentioned both in costliness and in the superiority of its delightful effect." -- Vitruvius, De architectura, 1st century BC.
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Horace
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HOLY CARP!!!
The key is not to be tribal about things. Of course there are tons of smart, tribal people.

I was disappointed recently to see that Bill Gates' wife came out unequivocally against the google memo. Something about how it sets society back and blah blah blah.

Well I suppose Google's response said it all. But I wanted to think that that was social coercion. Melinda's response was entirely her choice.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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Catseye3
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The key is not to be tribal about things.


Even more, to determine beyond a reasonable doubt that you're not being tribal when you aver something. I mean, if it's true that there's nothing new under the sun because Internet, then how do you know?

It's very discouraging. :blueunsure:

"I shall now begin to speak of purple, which exceeds all the colors that have so far been mentioned both in costliness and in the superiority of its delightful effect." -- Vitruvius, De architectura, 1st century BC.
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Catseye3
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But now I'm coming to terms slowly with the fact that human thought, especially as it applies to social issues of the day, is mostly programming. So they really do "think" what they say, for whatever definition of "thought" that is. I mean, they do feel feelings based on these thoughts. I mean, it's all real, to them.


Hey, Horace. Fiddling around on the Net, I found this and thought of yours above:
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Lifeless Cold Eyes

Now I can see them
Millions of people
lined up along the streets
with only one thought
Slaves of their image
and prestige
They are full of hate and grudge
Sons of this artificial world
Ready to surrender to compromises
like robots without reason
Minds burned by mental terrorism
victims of illusion
People who is prophet of false ideals
thirsted for power
People who takes refuge in wrong heavens
to find new dimensions
The great volcano erupts… NONSENSE
Snakes are crossing… THE STREET
I bury my face in… MY HANDS
I DON’T WANNA SEE
I don’t wanna see!!!
How different is your world
How far we are
We walk on parallel streets
Without any junction
Your eyes perceives images
Wholly different to mine
In your mind you have thought that
I refuse
We look each other
Lifeless cold eyes
WE LOOK EACH OTHER
LIFELESS COLD EYES
"I shall now begin to speak of purple, which exceeds all the colors that have so far been mentioned both in costliness and in the superiority of its delightful effect." -- Vitruvius, De architectura, 1st century BC.
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Horace
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That's pretty bleak.

Well, at least girls are still pretty.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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