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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 22 2017, 10:17 AM (436 Views) | |
| Frank_W | Sep 22 2017, 10:17 AM Post #1 |
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There's a woman in my surgical technology class who is dumb as a brick, but she always cheats. Sooner or later, she's going to get caught, but it really pisses me off when I bust my ass studying, and she doesn't do crap except cheat, and then brags about how well she did on the pharmacology exam, or an extensive anatomy and physiology exam. I guess if it were one of the gen-ed classes, I wouldn't care, but it's really starting to get on my tits, especially since her knowledge (or lack thereof) will have a direct impact on peoples' lives. |
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| Mark | Sep 22 2017, 10:21 AM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Cheater suck. Drop the anonymous note. |
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| Catseye3 | Sep 22 2017, 10:32 AM Post #3 |
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Fulla-Carp
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How do you know she's cheating? If you know, could others know? I hate anonymous notes. Maybe that's an option. What about drawing her aside and telling her of your suspicions and giving her a chance to stop, otherwise you will report her? Otherwise, what skin is it off your nose? You think she's the last person you'll meet in your life who will get ahead of you through cheating, one way or the other? If your issue is that your doing nothing could indirectly contribute to a future patient's being harmed, then you have an obligation to act. If that's not your issue, fuggedaboudit. |
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| jon-nyc | Sep 22 2017, 10:35 AM Post #4 |
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Cheers
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Ok, we've established that she's willing to cheat. Is she cute? |
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| Rainman | Sep 22 2017, 11:07 AM Post #5 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I suppose before giving feedback, I'd want examples of how she is cheating. If you are basing anything on your suspicions, then she could nail you (and not in the way Jon is hoping, the dirty 'ol man). |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 22 2017, 11:19 AM Post #6 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 22 2017, 11:20 AM Post #7 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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But seriously - do you want someone who cheated their way through as your surgical assistant? Nahhhh. Burn her cheating ass. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Klaus | Sep 22 2017, 11:26 AM Post #8 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I hate cheaters, but I hate squealers even more. I'd mind my own business. |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 22 2017, 11:32 AM Post #9 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Yeah, but you're a math guy. You guys don't really DO anything anyway.... |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Riley | Sep 22 2017, 11:33 AM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It is absolutely never okay to rat someone out unless they are doing something that puts someone’s safety at risk. I suppose that argument could be made given what the class is about but I still tend to side with Klaus here. |
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| Rainman | Sep 22 2017, 11:36 AM Post #11 |
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So I guess we're all in agreement that it goes back to if she's cute or not.
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 22 2017, 11:37 AM Post #12 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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That is only true if you are accomplices. If they are up to nefarious deeds and are stupid enough to let you find out about it they need to be deleted from that particular gene pool. In the age where robbers post videos of their loot and weapons on Facebook all that honor stuff is gone. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Riley | Sep 22 2017, 11:45 AM Post #13 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I’m speaking more from a work standpoint. Although I would feel the same about school. It does not affect Frank’s grade if her grade is artificially inflated. But the thing that drives me crazy the most being a union steward (maybe I’ll post an update on that soon) it’s the people who file complaints like “person X was on break for 45 minutes, person Y did this, person Z did that”. If they aren’t doing anything that puts you or others at risk mind your own f*cking business. And also, if you get caught taking a 45 minute break, I will do my best to defend you, but if you start naming off other people who do the same thing, I will tell you to stop talking right in front of the supervisor disciplining you. You got caught. They didn’t. Suck it up. |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 22 2017, 11:48 AM Post #14 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Yes, it is harming Frank. Medical personnel have ethical standards they need to adhere to. This person will graduate to perhaps kill someone. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Copper | Sep 22 2017, 11:49 AM Post #15 |
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Shortstop
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Frank, she is a plant. You are being tested. The Clintons are setting you up for blackmail. Make videos of everything you do within 10 miles of the classroom and store them in a safe location. |
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| Riley | Sep 22 2017, 11:51 AM Post #16 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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And I did say if someone’s safety is at risk that is the one exception, and that that argument could be made here. Ratting her out because you think she could injure someone is different from ratting her out because you don’t like that she didn’t work as hard as you. |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 22 2017, 12:02 PM Post #17 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Klaus | Sep 22 2017, 12:23 PM Post #18 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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An engineer is working at his desk in his office. His cigarette falls off the desk into the wastebasket, causing the papers within to burst into flames. The engineer looks around, sees a fire extinguisher, grabs it, puts out the flames, and goes back to work. A physicist is working at his desk in another office and the same thing happens. He looks at the fire, looks at the fire extinguisher, and thinks "Fire requires fuel plus oxygen plus heat. The fire extinguisher will remove both the oxygen and the heat in the wastebasket. Ergo, no fire." He grabs the extinguisher, puts out the flames, and goes back to work. A mathematician is working at his desk in another office and the same thing happens. He looks at the fire, looks at the fire extinguisher, and thinks for a minute, says "Ah! A solution exists!" and goes back to work. |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 22 2017, 12:36 PM Post #19 |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Frank_W | Sep 22 2017, 12:59 PM Post #20 |
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No, she's not particularly cute. She's already on probation for coming to class drunk after lunch. She was dumb enough to tell other people that she's cheating, and also to leave her "cheat sheet" that she had marked on the desk in pencil. Cheating is kind of its own skill, in a way. Done well, no one would ever know. She's just being stupid and obvious... I just really kind of resent the fact that she's even in the class, to begin with. She obviously has the conscience and ethics of a sewer rat. I do take the point that it is really none of my business. It just galls me, though. I think that, given enough time, she'll end up being excused from the course.
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| Rainman | Sep 22 2017, 01:05 PM Post #21 |
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Would you approach this differently if she were a guy? Yeah, that's kind of a loaded question, but I'm wondering if that would make a difference if I were in your place. I think it might (for me). |
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| Frank_W | Sep 22 2017, 01:09 PM Post #22 |
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No... I don't care about her gender. I'm old enough to be every single person in that class's father. |
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| George K | Sep 22 2017, 01:10 PM Post #23 |
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Hey, aren't you supposed to be studying or something like that?
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Frank_W | Sep 22 2017, 01:11 PM Post #24 |
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Actually, yes. Big pharmacology exam on Monday. Ugh...
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| Frank_W | Sep 22 2017, 01:41 PM Post #25 |
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Suicide by Clinton cabinet members: Coroner has never seen anything like it before. Apparently, the suicide victim shot himself in the head. TWICE! |
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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