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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 17 2017, 03:05 PM (635 Views) | |
| Davis | Sep 17 2017, 03:05 PM Post #1 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Ken Burns, 10 part series, starts in hour or 8pm EST Don't miss out. |
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| Copper | Sep 17 2017, 03:47 PM Post #2 |
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Shortstop
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http://s10.zetaboards.com/The_New_Coffee_Room/topic/9034036/1/#new |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Davis | Sep 17 2017, 05:43 PM Post #3 |
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First episode is totally worth the investment. An excellent recounting of the 20 years leading up to Kennedy's role in the expansion of our efforts. I think it will be 18 hours total but I expect completely worth it. So much context for even the last 20 years of foreign policy. |
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| Jolly | Sep 17 2017, 06:05 PM Post #4 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Enjoyed it. Thought Burns did a pretty good job at showing just how complicated and historical the reasons for the war were. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 18 2017, 04:24 AM Post #5 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Lots and lots of historical background I was not aware of. Excellent work, which we come to expect of Burns. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Renauda | Sep 18 2017, 05:48 AM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I watched the first episode twice last evening back to back. Very well done. Looking forward to the whole series. following the second airing there was a retrospect of the DIck Cavett show with clips from contentious interviews that aired dealing with the war. Very interesting. |
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| Rainman | Sep 18 2017, 10:06 AM Post #7 |
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I thought it was very good as well. Was expecting more folk music, but that may be coming. Roosevelt was portrayed in one segment as being so supportive of self government of the people. Yet, he handed eastern europe to Stalin at Yalta. Another segment mentioned how Ho Chi Minh wrote several letters to Truman (I think), yet it was pointed out that Truman never received the letters. I wonder why he did not. I wonder how many REALLY important letters or information are kept from any president, and who decides (puppet master). Overall, so many times where good intentions start a movement, as a generalization, and then things spiral down into carnage, history seems to repeat itself. Also wondered whenever these leaders in their early years moved across the globe for whatever reason, who paid, and who provided the logistics from travel expenses to filling out paperwork, applications, housing, visas, etc. Simple questions from my simple mind. Always looking for the puppet masters. |
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| Aqua Letifer | Sep 18 2017, 10:08 AM Post #8 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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| jon-nyc | Sep 18 2017, 10:12 AM Post #9 |
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Cheers
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I'm looking forward to this as well, however I'll wait until it's on demand or on DVD. I can't commit to sitting in front of a screen at an appointed hour. |
| In my defense, I was left unsupervised. | |
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| Jolly | Sep 18 2017, 10:34 AM Post #10 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Who's yer buddy? http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-vietnam-war/watch/episode-1/ |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| George K | Sep 18 2017, 11:50 AM Post #11 |
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Finally
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They, no doubt, put up the "explicit language version" specifically for Mr. Purity Score. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Catseye3 | Sep 18 2017, 12:25 PM Post #12 |
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That is the best thing about you, Rainman: you're always asking questions, always giving voice to your curiosity. The questioning mind is the learning mind. "In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few." -- Shunryu Suzuki, author of the classic Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind. |
| "I shall now begin to speak of purple, which exceeds all the colors that have so far been mentioned both in costliness and in the superiority of its delightful effect." -- Vitruvius, De architectura, 1st century BC. | |
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| Luke's Dad | Sep 18 2017, 12:31 PM Post #13 |
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Emperor Pengin
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Crap. You guys are going to make me watch educational TV, aren't you? |
| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| Rainman | Sep 18 2017, 12:33 PM Post #14 |
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Thanks, Cats! Ax always asks questions, too. But my questions are better than his.
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| Jolly | Sep 18 2017, 12:36 PM Post #15 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| George K | Sep 18 2017, 05:05 PM Post #16 |
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Finally
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George Will: It's a masterpiece
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 18 2017, 05:49 PM Post #17 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Just finished episode 2. Our ignorance of the people we were "saving" was staggering. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Davis | Sep 19 2017, 03:10 AM Post #18 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Unfortunately I may going to have to binge watch and play catch up later this week. |
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| Rainman | Sep 19 2017, 09:31 PM Post #19 |
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Anyone see tonight's episode #3? I had it on while working, so was only half paying attention. The reason I ask, is that it seemed to be revealing a really screwed up U.S. government, and how awful our troops were in actions taken not only against the North Vietnamese soldiers and civilians, but against even dead soldiers, where they retrieved 4 of their own, but left about a dozen South Vietnamese solders laying behind. That's at least one part where I looked up and watched. Was there a bias in tonight's episode? Or was there any other side of good not presented, that could have been? Example: in Iraq, we bombed the hell out of them, but soldiers also spent considerable time building schools, hospitals, etc. What an awful mess that was, on so many levels. And I'm worried that history could repeat itself again, soon, somewhere. |
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| Klaus | Sep 19 2017, 11:07 PM Post #20 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| KlavierBauer | Sep 19 2017, 11:08 PM Post #21 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Klaus - the Opera browser has a nice built-in VPN that allows proxying through the U.S. (and a handful of other countries). Netflix is smart enough to catch it, but my guess is that PBS isn’t.
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Klaus | Sep 19 2017, 11:57 PM Post #22 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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built-in VPN? But who would provide a server for such a service for free? |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| jon-nyc | Sep 20 2017, 01:49 AM Post #23 |
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Cheers
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I used Tunnel Bear for the World Cup in 2014. I think the introductory month was $5 |
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| George K | Sep 20 2017, 03:19 AM Post #24 |
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Edited by George K, Sep 20 2017, 03:20 AM.
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Jolly | Sep 20 2017, 05:23 AM Post #25 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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It's Ken Burns, so you know there will be some bias. I think that the American government was very conflicted at that time. We really didn't want to be there, but we really didn't want South Vietnam to fall to the Communists. I think war is war. Really nasty things happen in any war. Did we fail in Vietnam? I don't know. I do know the progression of communism pretty much ground to a standstill by the time we left. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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