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| Nobody's Sock | Sep 15 2017, 01:59 PM Post #26 |
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anybody who has an extra $1000 laying around to feed the Apple machine must also have enough money to pay my electric bill this month. Please?? Only $600. |
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| Axtremus | Sep 15 2017, 02:01 PM Post #27 |
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Under the right circumstances, feeding $1000 to Apple may be legitimately tax deductible. Would paying your electric bill this month confers any tax benefit? |
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| George K | Sep 15 2017, 02:05 PM Post #28 |
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Is it worth $150 more than the high-end Samsung phone? ![]() Maybe. I just ordered the iPhone 8. That price was $150 cheaper than the Samsung. Probably an equivalent model. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| George K | Sep 15 2017, 02:06 PM Post #29 |
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Oh, and you pay $600 a month for electricity? Whoa. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Rainman | Sep 15 2017, 02:16 PM Post #30 |
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That's not all that expensive, I'm sure it's very high quality electricity. |
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| Nobody's Sock | Sep 15 2017, 02:36 PM Post #31 |
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We have the best electricity! It's of the highest voltage. Let me tell you about the month of August here in the Central Valley. An inferno it was, and it bled well into this month. We are finally back to normal and it feels divine at 85. Swimming pool, hot tub, 2 roommates who never knew that a closed window or door helps keep the house cool, no solar panel thingies on my roof, and most of all California!! The golden state! They take my gold every month they do. |
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| Axtremus | Sep 15 2017, 02:39 PM Post #32 |
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Swimming pool could not help cool you down? Was the water hot from too many high temperature days? |
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| Nobody's Sock | Sep 15 2017, 03:58 PM Post #33 |
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Yes, the pool became a tepid bathtub for a while. Much nicer now |
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| Larry | Sep 15 2017, 09:12 PM Post #34 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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| Jolly | Sep 16 2017, 03:12 AM Post #35 |
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Doesn't everybody? That's about three month's worth, right? |
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| Jolly | Sep 16 2017, 03:13 AM Post #36 |
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Move to Colorado or Texas. Everybody else in California has. |
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| Nobody's Sock | Sep 16 2017, 07:33 AM Post #37 |
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My birth mother and brother and Nona all live in colorado. Boulder. Just visited 4th of july. I could live in Boulder for sure. It wouldn't be much of a house though, real estate is through the roof there. |
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| George K | Sep 16 2017, 01:47 PM Post #38 |
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What would the iphone X have cost in ... 1957. Consider the 256 GB memory iPhone X: Implemented in vacuum tubes in 1957, the transistors in an iPhoneX alone would have:
Well, in 1959 you could buy a one-byte—8-bit—Phister 366 for 65 dollars http://jcmit.net/memoryprice.htm
Oh. And clock speed. The AN/FSQ-7 operated at 75khz. The A-11 is a 6-core 24 mhz processor:
And we haven't even gotten started on the hardware architecture, or on the software and maintenance support necessary to emulate an iPhoneX at speed back in the late 1950s... |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Rainman | Sep 16 2017, 01:58 PM Post #39 |
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Well all I can say is it's damn lucky the iPhone was invented when it was, instead of back in 1957! |
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| Klaus | Sep 16 2017, 02:03 PM Post #40 |
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That sounds wrong. Got a source? |
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| Klaus | Sep 16 2017, 02:18 PM Post #41 |
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By the way, the public image of those Apple processors is much better than the reality. Clever marketing. For instance, take those "Geekbench" benchmarks that are floating around which supposedly show that an iPhone is faster than a modern laptop. They are utter BS, as noticed by Linus Torvalds and many others. For instance, they have highly weighted benchmark components that have special hardware support in that particular processor (cryptography stuff) which must be done in software on other processors. If you'd be able to install Windows or OS X on an iPhone, everybody would be highly disappointed by the performance. |
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| George K | Sep 16 2017, 02:19 PM Post #42 |
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http://www.zdnet.com/article/inside-apples-new-a11-bionic-processor/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A11 I can't find anything about the speed of the processor. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Klaus | Sep 16 2017, 02:20 PM Post #43 |
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I don't doubt the 6 cores, but 24mhz sounds much too low. The predecessor, the A10, had something like 2 Ghz. Unless it's a completely different processor architecture I'd expect the clock speed to be in the 2-3 Ghz range. |
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| George K | Sep 16 2017, 02:21 PM Post #44 |
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Isn't that an unfair comparison? OS is frequently optimized for the chip on which it runs, isn't it? How fast would iOS, or Android run on an Intel chip? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| George K | Sep 16 2017, 02:21 PM Post #45 |
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Yeah, I think that's a misprint. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Klaus | Sep 16 2017, 02:24 PM Post #46 |
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WTF is a "performance core" and a "high-efficiency core"? My guess is that it's basically a 2-core processor, and they count some GPU-related cores (which are completely different) to make it 6 for marketing reasons. |
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| Klaus | Sep 16 2017, 02:33 PM Post #47 |
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There are simulators for iOS and Android that run on Macs/PCs, but they are probably not optimized for performance. Operating systems are to some degree optimized for the chip on which it runs, but it isn't that hard to optimize it for a new chip. For instance, Linux runs fast on routers or raspberry pi, but also on big Intel Xeon workstations. But for a semi-fair comparison this would not even be needed. They can just take generic number crunching stuff with no special hardware support, with a wide range of kernel sizes such that one can see the effect of cache misses (Linus also criticises Geekbench for only measuring "small kernels" that fit into the small L1 cache of that particular processor, which deliberately cuts off one of the benefits of "bigger" processors, namely that they have bigger caches). |
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| Copper | Sep 16 2017, 03:33 PM Post #48 |
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I don't know if you should even try a fair comparison with a machine built for a different purpose. Android and iOS simulators on PC and Mac can have very poor performance especially in debugging mode. The Android simulators on my PC are now almost unusable but the PC runs just fine with Windows 10. Same for the iOS simulators on my Mac, but not as bad as Android. |
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| George K | Sep 17 2017, 04:02 AM Post #49 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2owPsEONw7Y&feature=youtu.be |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| George K | Sep 25 2017, 04:33 AM Post #50 |
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iPhone 8 Is World's Fastest Phone (It's Not Even Close) |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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