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Antifa - "Domestic Terrorist Violence"; sez DHS
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Topic Started: Sep 1 2017, 10:49 AM (67 Views)
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George K
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Sep 1 2017, 10:49 AM
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And, they said it more than 16 months ago.
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Federal authorities have been warning state and local officials since early 2016 that leftist extremists known as “antifa” had become increasingly confrontational and dangerous, so much so that the Department of Homeland Security formally classified their activities as “domestic terrorist violence,” according to interviews and confidential law enforcement documents obtained by POLITICO.
Since well before the Aug. 12 rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, turned deadly, DHS has been issuing warnings about the growing likelihood of lethal violence between the left-wing anarchists and right-wing white supremacist and nationalist groups.
Previously unreported documents disclose that by April 2016, authorities believed that “anarchist extremists” were the primary instigators of violence at public rallies against a range of targets. They were blamed by authorities for attacks on the police, government and political institutions, along with symbols of “the capitalist system,” racism, social injustice and fascism, according to a confidential 2016 joint intelligence assessment by DHS and the FBI.
After President Donald Trump’s election in November, the antifa activists locked onto another target — his supporters, especially those from white supremacist and nationalist groups suddenly turning out in droves to hail his victory, support crackdowns on immigrants and Muslims and to protest efforts to remove symbols of the Confederacy. ... Some of the antifa activists have gone overseas to train and fight with fellow anarchist organizations, including two Turkey-based groups fighting the Islamic State, according to interviews and internet postings.
In their April 2016 assessment, the DHS and FBI said the anarchist groups would likely become more lethal if “fascist, nationalist, racist or anti-immigrant parties obtain greater prominence or local political power in the United States, leading to anti-racist violent backlash from anarchist extremists.”
The assessment also said the anarchist groups could become more aggressive if they seek to “retaliate violently to a violent act by a white supremacist extremist or group,” they acquire more powerful weapons or they obtain the financial means to travel abroad and learn more violent tactics.
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What exactly did Barack Obama’s DOJ do last year to get a jump on this threat when DHS issued its assessment of concern? What did Obama himself do to speak out against what he had reason to know was a security risk? Anything?
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Frank_W
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Sep 1 2017, 11:32 AM
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Good. Once DHS gets on-board and these morons are labeled for what they are, this is the first step in addressing it the way it should have been addressed from the get-go.
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Larry
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Sep 1 2017, 12:41 PM
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I don't understand why they don't pass a federal law making it illegal to participate in a protest with your face hidden from view.
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George K
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Sep 1 2017, 12:48 PM
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- Larry
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I don't understand why they don't pass a federal law making it illegal to participate in a protest with your face hidden from view.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/us/protests-masks-laws.html- Quote:
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Since 1949, it has been illegal to wear a mask in public in Alabama outside of occasions like Halloween and Mardi Gras. That sweeping law, and others enacted across the country around that time, was in direct response to the Ku Klux Klan.
Numerous states have laws governing the wearing of masks in public. In Ohio, for instance, it is illegal for two or more people to wear “white caps, masks or other disguises” while committing a misdemeanor. In West Virginia, a broad law prohibiting the wearing of masks includes several exceptions: holiday costumes and winter sports attire, among others.
California had an expansive anti-mask law for decades, until the Iranian revolution in 1979. Iranian-Americans in California sued over the law, saying it kept them from shielding their identities for safety purposes in protests against the new leadership in Iran. The law was struck down.
“The California court recognized, and other courts recognize, that people wear masks in all sorts of situations for completely nonviolent and, in fact, purposes that are protected by the First Amendment,” Michael T. Risher, a senior staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union of Northern California, said in an interview.
After that case, the state enacted a far narrower provision: It is illegal to wear a mask in the act of committing a crime. The University of California, Berkeley, also has its own regulation for masks: People who are not affiliated with the university cannot wear masks on campus for the purpose of intimidation. .. Across the country, courts have reached different conclusions on whether mask laws violate the First Amendment. In 1999, the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan won a case against Goshen, Ind., in Federal District Court over the city’s ordinance banning masks in public.
A New York State law prohibiting “being masked or in any manner disguised” in public has withstood legal challenges since 1845 and has been used recently. The police in New York City cited the mask law while arresting people associated with the Occupy Wall Street movement in 2011 and 2012.
Like the laws in other states, the New York statute includes exceptions for masquerade parties and other entertainment events. But unlike other states, New York did not pursue the legislation in response to the Ku Klux Klan. The law was intended to prevent the killing of landlords by tenant farmers in the Hudson Valley who dressed up as American Indians and wore disguises of calico gowns and leather masks.
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Larry
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Sep 1 2017, 12:51 PM
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Then just start shooting the bastards.
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Frank_W
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Sep 1 2017, 02:23 PM
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- Larry
- Sep 1 2017, 12:51 PM
Then just start shooting the bastards. No bag limit, no size restriction.
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Mikhailoh
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Sep 1 2017, 02:24 PM
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You know, those masks were not kevlar. Surprise, surprise, surprise!
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Frank_W
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Sep 1 2017, 02:26 PM
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Even Kevlar won't stop a round at twenty feet or less.
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