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Aug 28 2017, 06:18 PM
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Haven't seen any fake pictures, they are all real.
I did just hear Al Gore expressing concern that all the water will flood the oceans and cause the icecaps to melt even further. Polar bears covered in brown, dirty water, sharks on the roads as climate change results in water rising first in Texas. Awful.
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Aug 28 2017, 07:13 PM
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there. Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money.
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Aug 28 2017, 07:20 PM
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there.
Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money. Trust me brotha, they HAVE the money.
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Aug 28 2017, 07:23 PM
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there.
Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money.
Trust me brotha, they HAVE the money. Ok, you tell me.
Hospitals are doing well since Obamacare?
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Aug 28 2017, 07:29 PM
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there.
Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money.
Trust me brotha, they HAVE the money.
Ok, you tell me. Hospitals are doing well since Obamacare? Two hangnails and a broken ankle and you can move the generator across town.
The rest is rounding error.
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Aug 28 2017, 07:55 PM
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there.
Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money.
Trust me brotha, they HAVE the money.
Ok, you tell me. Hospitals are doing well since Obamacare?
Two hangnails and a broken ankle and you can move the generator across town. The rest is rounding error. You're an electrician by trade. As such, you know about emergency power wiring, generator size, room priority connections and fuel storage.
I know we used to have two John Deere units and one bigger Cat unit. The JD's had a 1000 gallon tank between them, while the Cat had its own 1000 gallon tank. How long they would run on that, I don't know, but I suspect they would meet the 96 hour standard.
I don't think that stuff is cheap, even for the hospitals swimming in money. Of course, I don't know of any swimming in money.
But, if you'd like to make a mint of money, Tulane is for sale. Just contact HCA corporate.
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Aug 28 2017, 07:58 PM
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there.
Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money.
Trust me brotha, they HAVE the money.
Ok, you tell me. Hospitals are doing well since Obamacare?
Two hangnails and a broken ankle and you can move the generator across town. The rest is rounding error.
You're an electrician by trade. As such, you know about emergency power wiring, generator size, room priority connections and fuel storage. I know we used to have two John Deere units and one bigger Cat unit. The JD's had a 1000 gallon tank between them, while the Cat had its own 1000 gallon tank. How long they would run on that, I don't know, but I suspect they would meet the 96 hour standard. I don't think that stuff is cheap, even for the hospitals swimming in money. Of course, I don't know of any swimming in money. But, if you'd like to make a mint of money, Tulane is for sale. Just contact HCA corporate. You're right. It might take [four] hangnails and an appendectomy.
But if HCA cared one bit about patients those generators would have been on the roof two years ago.
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Aug 28 2017, 08:08 PM
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there.
Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money.
Trust me brotha, they HAVE the money.
Ok, you tell me. Hospitals are doing well since Obamacare?
Two hangnails and a broken ankle and you can move the generator across town. The rest is rounding error.
You're an electrician by trade. As such, you know about emergency power wiring, generator size, room priority connections and fuel storage. I know we used to have two John Deere units and one bigger Cat unit. The JD's had a 1000 gallon tank between them, while the Cat had its own 1000 gallon tank. How long they would run on that, I don't know, but I suspect they would meet the 96 hour standard. I don't think that stuff is cheap, even for the hospitals swimming in money. Of course, I don't know of any swimming in money. But, if you'd like to make a mint of money, Tulane is for sale. Just contact HCA corporate.
You're right. It might take [four] hangnails and an appendectomy. But if HCA cared one bit about patients those generators would have been on the roof two years ago. Since HCA doesn't own Ben Taught or M.D. Anderson, might be stretching things a mite for HCA to tell them what to do with their hospital.
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Aug 28 2017, 08:13 PM
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there.
Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money.
Trust me brotha, they HAVE the money.
Ok, you tell me. Hospitals are doing well since Obamacare?
Two hangnails and a broken ankle and you can move the generator across town. The rest is rounding error.
You're an electrician by trade. As such, you know about emergency power wiring, generator size, room priority connections and fuel storage. I know we used to have two John Deere units and one bigger Cat unit. The JD's had a 1000 gallon tank between them, while the Cat had its own 1000 gallon tank. How long they would run on that, I don't know, but I suspect they would meet the 96 hour standard. I don't think that stuff is cheap, even for the hospitals swimming in money. Of course, I don't know of any swimming in money. But, if you'd like to make a mint of money, Tulane is for sale. Just contact HCA corporate.
You're right. It might take [four] hangnails and an appendectomy. But if HCA cared one bit about patients those generators would have been on the roof two years ago.
Since HCA doesn't own Ben Taught or M.D. Anderson, might be stretching things a mite for HCA to tell them what to do with their hospital. That's a dodge. Facilities takes a back seat to top line profit every time and you know it. There's no excuse for those generators being in the basement.
Defend the brass as you like. God knows why you would do that.
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Aug 28 2017, 08:24 PM
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there.
Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money.
Trust me brotha, they HAVE the money.
Ok, you tell me. Hospitals are doing well since Obamacare?
Two hangnails and a broken ankle and you can move the generator across town. The rest is rounding error.
You're an electrician by trade. As such, you know about emergency power wiring, generator size, room priority connections and fuel storage. I know we used to have two John Deere units and one bigger Cat unit. The JD's had a 1000 gallon tank between them, while the Cat had its own 1000 gallon tank. How long they would run on that, I don't know, but I suspect they would meet the 96 hour standard. I don't think that stuff is cheap, even for the hospitals swimming in money. Of course, I don't know of any swimming in money. But, if you'd like to make a mint of money, Tulane is for sale. Just contact HCA corporate.
You're right. It might take [four] hangnails and an appendectomy. But if HCA cared one bit about patients those generators would have been on the roof two years ago.
Since HCA doesn't own Ben Taught or M.D. Anderson, might be stretching things a mite for HCA to tell them what to do with their hospital.
That's a dodge. Facilities takes a back seat to top line profit every time and you know it. There's no excuse for those generators being in the basement. Defend the brass as you like. God knows why you would do that. AFAIK, Anderson is owned by U.T. I'm not sure about Ben Taub, but I know they are staffed with Baylor residents. M.D.'s budget is on line, Google it up.
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there.
Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money.
Trust me brotha, they HAVE the money.
Ok, you tell me. Hospitals are doing well since Obamacare?
Two hangnails and a broken ankle and you can move the generator across town. The rest is rounding error.
You're an electrician by trade. As such, you know about emergency power wiring, generator size, room priority connections and fuel storage. I know we used to have two John Deere units and one bigger Cat unit. The JD's had a 1000 gallon tank between them, while the Cat had its own 1000 gallon tank. How long they would run on that, I don't know, but I suspect they would meet the 96 hour standard. I don't think that stuff is cheap, even for the hospitals swimming in money. Of course, I don't know of any swimming in money. But, if you'd like to make a mint of money, Tulane is for sale. Just contact HCA corporate.
You're right. It might take [four] hangnails and an appendectomy. But if HCA cared one bit about patients those generators would have been on the roof two years ago.
Since HCA doesn't own Ben Taught or M.D. Anderson, might be stretching things a mite for HCA to tell them what to do with their hospital.
That's a dodge. Facilities takes a back seat to top line profit every time and you know it. There's no excuse for those generators being in the basement. Defend the brass as you like. God knows why you would do that.
AFAIK, Anderson is owned by U.T. I'm not sure about Ben Taub, but I know they are staffed with Baylor residents. M.D.'s budget is on line, Google it up. You win.
Let em die.
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there.
Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money.
Trust me brotha, they HAVE the money.
Ok, you tell me. Hospitals are doing well since Obamacare?
Two hangnails and a broken ankle and you can move the generator across town. The rest is rounding error.
You're an electrician by trade. As such, you know about emergency power wiring, generator size, room priority connections and fuel storage. I know we used to have two John Deere units and one bigger Cat unit. The JD's had a 1000 gallon tank between them, while the Cat had its own 1000 gallon tank. How long they would run on that, I don't know, but I suspect they would meet the 96 hour standard. I don't think that stuff is cheap, even for the hospitals swimming in money. Of course, I don't know of any swimming in money. But, if you'd like to make a mint of money, Tulane is for sale. Just contact HCA corporate.
You're right. It might take [four] hangnails and an appendectomy. But if HCA cared one bit about patients those generators would have been on the roof two years ago.
Since HCA doesn't own Ben Taught or M.D. Anderson, might be stretching things a mite for HCA to tell them what to do with their hospital.
That's a dodge. Facilities takes a back seat to top line profit every time and you know it. There's no excuse for those generators being in the basement. Defend the brass as you like. God knows why you would do that.
AFAIK, Anderson is owned by U.T. I'm not sure about Ben Taub, but I know they are staffed with Baylor residents. M.D.'s budget is on line, Google it up.
You win. Let em die. Funny man.
How many hurricanes have you been through? How many hospital boards do you sit on? How much money do you allocate for an event that may occur two years in a row, two months in a row or once in a hundred years? This is not shoot from the hip stuff. The generating capacity for a 600 bed hospital is not a small process and I'm not even sure what would be involved in moving your generators from the physical plan to the roof, but it ain't gonna be cheap.
As for letting them die, that shows your thought process, not mine.
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Aug 28 2017, 08:49 PM
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Looks like a lot of places put their generators in the basement.
You'd think they would have learned from Katrina.
Most big buildings have their physical plants in the basement. Most places with generators have them in the basement or sometimes on ground level. At least the ones I'm familiar with...
True, but if I had something like a hospital in a flood prone area I might think about relocating the generator to the roof. Or perhaps adding one there.
Maybe since Obamacare they don't have the money.
Trust me brotha, they HAVE the money.
Ok, you tell me. Hospitals are doing well since Obamacare?
Two hangnails and a broken ankle and you can move the generator across town. The rest is rounding error.
You're an electrician by trade. As such, you know about emergency power wiring, generator size, room priority connections and fuel storage. I know we used to have two John Deere units and one bigger Cat unit. The JD's had a 1000 gallon tank between them, while the Cat had its own 1000 gallon tank. How long they would run on that, I don't know, but I suspect they would meet the 96 hour standard. I don't think that stuff is cheap, even for the hospitals swimming in money. Of course, I don't know of any swimming in money. But, if you'd like to make a mint of money, Tulane is for sale. Just contact HCA corporate.
You're right. It might take [four] hangnails and an appendectomy. But if HCA cared one bit about patients those generators would have been on the roof two years ago.
Since HCA doesn't own Ben Taught or M.D. Anderson, might be stretching things a mite for HCA to tell them what to do with their hospital.
That's a dodge. Facilities takes a back seat to top line profit every time and you know it. There's no excuse for those generators being in the basement. Defend the brass as you like. God knows why you would do that.
AFAIK, Anderson is owned by U.T. I'm not sure about Ben Taub, but I know they are staffed with Baylor residents. M.D.'s budget is on line, Google it up.
You win. Let em die.
Funny man. How many hurricanes have you been through? How many hospital boards do you sit on? How much money do you allocate for an event that may occur two years in a row, two months in a row or once in a hundred years? This is not shoot from the hip stuff. The generating capacity for a 600 bed hospital is not a small process and I'm not even sure what would be involved in moving your generators from the physical plan to the roof, but it ain't gonna be cheap. As for letting them die, that shows your thought process, not mine. Ok. This is fun.
Adding even a big ass generator on the roof is gonna be about $300K. About the same as a normal bypass surgery with no complications. Maybe a little less - keep 'em an extra week and you've got a $million.
I've been in these meetings. What's the cost of doing nothing? Even though we are 100% sure there is going to be a flood that wipes out the hospital in the next 10 years? Nothing. The cost is nothing. Let them die. Hell, they're gonna die anyway. We can blame it on the flood.
Nobody cares. The $300K hits the balance sheet this year. Do nothing and we may all be retired by the time it's an issue.
And fire the facilities guy. He's a rebel.
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I'm talking off the top of my head, but I'm guessing a big hospital like Taub is going to need 8 or 10 thousand KW. If they don't go in the basement, recommendations are not to put them on the roof, at least that's what I'm reading here:
http://www.hfmmagazine.com/articles/1712-critical-features-of-emergency-power-generators
So, what's the cost of putting 10,000 KW of backup power on a floor within the hospital, setting up new switching gear and doing all the electrical?
If you can do that for $300 grand, you might change your mind and pack up the truck for Houston.
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I'm talking off the top of my head, but I'm guessing a big hospital like Taub is going to need 8 or 10 thousand KW. If they don't go in the basement, recommendations are not to put them on the roof, at least that's what I'm reading here: http://www.hfmmagazine.com/articles/1712-critical-features-of-emergency-power-generatorsSo, what's the cost of putting 10,000 KW of backup power on a floor within the hospital, setting up new switching gear and doing all the electrical? If you can do that for $300 grand, you might change your mind and pack up the truck for Houston. The question then becomes what the cost is of leaving it all the basement.
As Anderson has learned, the cost is that of closing the hospital. God knows what that cost. Maybe nothing - insurance covers it. Never mind people dying.
Or something.
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I'm talking off the top of my head, but I'm guessing a big hospital like Taub is going to need 8 or 10 thousand KW. If they don't go in the basement, recommendations are not to put them on the roof, at least that's what I'm reading here: http://www.hfmmagazine.com/articles/1712-critical-features-of-emergency-power-generatorsSo, what's the cost of putting 10,000 KW of backup power on a floor within the hospital, setting up new switching gear and doing all the electrical? If you can do that for $300 grand, you might change your mind and pack up the truck for Houston.
The question then becomes what the cost is of leaving it all the basement. As Anderson has learned, the cost is that of closing the hospital. God knows what that cost. Maybe nothing - insurance covers it. Never mind people dying. Or something. How many people are dying at Anderson due to generator problems, Steve?
I've got a friend over there in the hospital. He still sounded alive this evening when he texted me. He didn't mention anything about a mass die-off...
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Aug 28 2017, 09:30 PM
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- Jolly
- Aug 28 2017, 09:03 PM
I'm talking off the top of my head, but I'm guessing a big hospital like Taub is going to need 8 or 10 thousand KW. If they don't go in the basement, recommendations are not to put them on the roof, at least that's what I'm reading here: http://www.hfmmagazine.com/articles/1712-critical-features-of-emergency-power-generatorsSo, what's the cost of putting 10,000 KW of backup power on a floor within the hospital, setting up new switching gear and doing all the electrical? If you can do that for $300 grand, you might change your mind and pack up the truck for Houston.
The question then becomes what the cost is of leaving it all the basement. As Anderson has learned, the cost is that of closing the hospital. God knows what that cost. Maybe nothing - insurance covers it. Never mind people dying. Or something.
How many people are dying at Anderson due to generator problems, Steve? I've got a friend over there in the hospital. He still sounded alive this evening when he texted me. He didn't mention anything about a mass die-off... Who knows? They'll never tell you.
Let the stockholders decide.
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Aug 28 2017, 09:33 PM
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- Jolly
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- Steve Miller
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- Jolly
- Aug 28 2017, 09:03 PM
I'm talking off the top of my head, but I'm guessing a big hospital like Taub is going to need 8 or 10 thousand KW. If they don't go in the basement, recommendations are not to put them on the roof, at least that's what I'm reading here: http://www.hfmmagazine.com/articles/1712-critical-features-of-emergency-power-generatorsSo, what's the cost of putting 10,000 KW of backup power on a floor within the hospital, setting up new switching gear and doing all the electrical? If you can do that for $300 grand, you might change your mind and pack up the truck for Houston.
The question then becomes what the cost is of leaving it all the basement. As Anderson has learned, the cost is that of closing the hospital. God knows what that cost. Maybe nothing - insurance covers it. Never mind people dying. Or something.
How many people are dying at Anderson due to generator problems, Steve? I've got a friend over there in the hospital. He still sounded alive this evening when he texted me. He didn't mention anything about a mass die-off...
Who knows? Let the stockholders decide. The State of Texas has stockholders?
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Aug 28 2017, 09:36 PM
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- Steve Miller
- Aug 28 2017, 09:30 PM
- Jolly
- Aug 28 2017, 09:15 PM
- Steve Miller
- Aug 28 2017, 09:09 PM
- Jolly
- Aug 28 2017, 09:03 PM
I'm talking off the top of my head, but I'm guessing a big hospital like Taub is going to need 8 or 10 thousand KW. If they don't go in the basement, recommendations are not to put them on the roof, at least that's what I'm reading here: http://www.hfmmagazine.com/articles/1712-critical-features-of-emergency-power-generatorsSo, what's the cost of putting 10,000 KW of backup power on a floor within the hospital, setting up new switching gear and doing all the electrical? If you can do that for $300 grand, you might change your mind and pack up the truck for Houston.
The question then becomes what the cost is of leaving it all the basement. As Anderson has learned, the cost is that of closing the hospital. God knows what that cost. Maybe nothing - insurance covers it. Never mind people dying. Or something.
How many people are dying at Anderson due to generator problems, Steve? I've got a friend over there in the hospital. He still sounded alive this evening when he texted me. He didn't mention anything about a mass die-off...
Who knows? Let the stockholders decide.
The State of Texas has stockholders? You might have me here.
MD Anderson is a state hospital?
In that case, let the taxpayers decide.
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