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Trump banned from InfoWars
Topic Started: Aug 25 2017, 03:37 AM (377 Views)
George K
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Finally
Kelly moves to control the information Trump sees
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Confronted with a West Wing that treated policymaking as a free-for-all, President Donald Trump’s chief of staff, John Kelly, is instituting a system used by previous administrations to limit internal competition — and to make himself the last word on the material that crosses the president’s desk.

It’s a quiet effort to make Trump conform to White House decision-making norms he’s flouted without making him feel shackled or out of the loop. In a conference call last week, Kelly initiated a new policymaking process in which just he and one other aide — White House staff secretary Rob Porter, a little-known but highly regarded Rhodes scholar who overlapped with Jared Kushner as an undergraduate at Harvard — will review all documents that cross the Resolute desk.

The new system, laid out in two memos co-authored by Kelly and Porter and distributed to Cabinet members and White House staffers in recent days, is designed to ensure that the president won’t see any external policy documents, internal policy memos, agency reports and even news articles that haven’t been vetted. Kelly’s deputy, Kristjen Nielson, is also expected to assume an integral role.

The keystone of the new system is a “decision memo” that will — for each Trump policy — integrate the input of Cabinet agencies and policy councils and present the president with various options, as well as with the advantages and drawbacks of each one.

The Kelly-Porter reforms are in many ways a reversion to the habits of previous administrations, particularly in their attempt to ensure competing views are completely and straightforwardly presented to the president.

“There is a White House policy process, tried and true, that is not endemic to Republicans or Democrats, and it includes having the various policy councils bringing in the information and perspectives from agencies and elsewhere and then having the staff secretary’s office share the policy council’s memo around the office to get it vetted,” said Tevi Troy, who served as deputy assistant to the president for domestic policy under George W. Bush.
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HOLY CARP!!!
About time, but I guess the weak link in this strategy is the POTUS himself.
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Is there anyone here, friend or foe of Trump, who doesn't think this is a fantastic idea?
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jon-nyc
Aug 25 2017, 04:59 AM
Is there anyone here, friend or foe of Trump, who doesn't think this is a fantastic idea?
It's not a bad idea for any CEO. The problem comes in who is doing the screening and what they are screening out, or in.
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
A bit of discipline is certainly in order.
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jon-nyc
Aug 25 2017, 04:59 AM
Is there anyone here, friend or foe of Trump, who doesn't think this is a fantastic idea?
:wave2:
Sit down.
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HOLY CARP!!!
Wonder if Trump still gets to watch Fox News.
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Jolly
Aug 25 2017, 05:05 AM
jon-nyc
Aug 25 2017, 04:59 AM
Is there anyone here, friend or foe of Trump, who doesn't think this is a fantastic idea?
It's not a bad idea for any CEO. The problem comes in who is doing the screening and what they are screening out, or in.
The real issue is one of trust. If you don't trust the people who work for you, this system can never work.

Does Trump strike you as somebody who trusts his folks?
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Jolly
Aug 25 2017, 05:05 AM
jon-nyc
Aug 25 2017, 04:59 AM
Is there anyone here, friend or foe of Trump, who doesn't think this is a fantastic idea?
It's not a bad idea for any CEO. The problem comes in who is doing the screening and what they are screening out, or in.
It would be an exaggeration to say I'd take any random name from the phone book and let him do the filtering.

But I would take any random 4-star.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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The new system is fine.

Mr. Trump will eventually feel the need to get information from elsewhere.

That is when Mr. Kelly's management skills will be tested.

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What they really need is somebody with experience working in a kindergarten.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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John Kelly, is instituting a system :rightarrow: used by previous administrations


Does this not stand to reason?
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HOLY CARP!!!
John D'Oh
Aug 25 2017, 05:25 AM
Jolly
Aug 25 2017, 05:05 AM
jon-nyc
Aug 25 2017, 04:59 AM
Is there anyone here, friend or foe of Trump, who doesn't think this is a fantastic idea?
It's not a bad idea for any CEO. The problem comes in who is doing the screening and what they are screening out, or in.
The real issue is one of trust. If you don't trust the people who work for you, this system can never work.

Does Trump strike you as somebody who trusts his folks?
He seems to trust generals.

Because I guess he understands that u dont reach that kind of rank without some degree of talent and he probably knows deep down that he would never attain that kind of rank in a military hierarchy.
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Didn't he go to a military academy, because he was an unruly kid?

Maybe something rubbed off on him over those years.
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Aug 25 2017, 11:37 AM
Maybe something rubbed off on him over those years.
You might be getting confused with Catholic School.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Yuval's Levin's take.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/450835/trump-and-chaos-yuval-levin
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MAMIL
I'm not sure which is more bizarre, the fact that the President of the United States strongly resembles a character out of a Gilbert and Sullivan operetta, or the fact that so many of his supporters appear to be blind to the fact.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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jon-nyc
Aug 25 2017, 10:56 PM


Yes, very good.

"Trump's team is worried less about making sure their boss has all the information he requires than about making sure he's not exposed to extraneous information which may not be true but which he is powerfully inclined to believe and accept."

And:

"They are engaged in a narrowing of the information flow. They are working to carefully manage the content of what comes before his eyes and then to carefully control the implications of what comes out of his mouth. This suggests they grasp that the problem they confront is located between the president's eyes and his mouth: The problem they have is the president's mind."

And:

"A standing crisis does not mean constant mortal danger, but a failure to find a stable, functional state ... The standing crisis has consisted of something like a permanent pandemonium -- an unceasing chaos that has made it impossible for the administration to find any state of balance in which it can steadfastly pursue any clear goals."

"Chaos is the essence of that problem."









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Rainman
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John D'Oh
Aug 25 2017, 01:17 PM
Rainman
Aug 25 2017, 11:37 AM
Maybe something rubbed off on him over those years.
You might be getting confused with Catholic School.
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Before he became a billionaire real estate developer, reality TV star, and president-elect, Donald Trump was a cadet who attended the New York Military Academy.

Founded in 1889, the private school is spread across 120 acres in rural Cornwall, New York, located 60 miles north of Manhattan. The cost of tuition is $41,210 a year at the school, which ranks No. 128 on a list of the best boarding schools in the US by education resource Niche.

The story goes that Trump's parents shipped their 13-year-old son off to NYMA when he began acting up and it became a problem.
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John D'Oh
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MAMIL
I was just making a dirty and some might say rather childish joke. I can't help myself.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Not smart enough to tell good information from bad. Sad!
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jon-nyc
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Cheers

A chap who is like a small child
And overly easily riled
Now only reviews
Selections of news
A nearby adult has compiled.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
Axtremus
Aug 26 2017, 06:04 PM
Not smart enough to tell good information from bad. Sad!
Says a guy who constantly quotes from the Huffington Post...

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